CPU, as well as a funny story by the developers

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Babonzo#0016 wrote:


and for your "I think the expectations of casual pc gamers" why you are thinking that I am a "Casual Player"?
"Expectations"?

What are you talking about?

I have 2K hours on PoE 1 so I'm not a Casual player.

???


2k hours in poe1 over 13 years is casual buddy. Hell even 2k over the past year is barely even playing the game, that's just about 38 hours a week or ~5 hours a day.

My expectations are that in order for me to play the latest games at the highest settings for the best visual and audible experience, I have to have good hardware, but I'm not about to re-mortgage the house to get a 5090 so a 7900XT (which cost me £700 was more than good enough)
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Babonzo#0016 wrote:
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MadMossy#1934 wrote:
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Babonzo#0016 wrote:

This is my hardware:
i5-10600KF CPU 4.10GHz
Nvidia RTX 2060 12 GB
32 GB Ram
SSD


While your hardware could be considered OK, it is old, I'd also say the currently recommended specifications for PoE2 are incorrect when you consider the entire pipeline for development.

An i5 10600 is only a 6 core cpu, vs the PS5, Xbox which are both 8 core, the windows version is likely developed for 8 cores well, certainly the performance difference between an i5 10500 (recommended intel cpu) and the Ryzen 3700X is fairly substantial as one cpu has 6 cores vs the others 8 cores and higher clock speeds.

The 2060 is also 7 years old now, which in GPU terms is old as shit.

I think the expectations of casual pc gamers for their once expensive system to be able to play modern games flawlessly is a little unrealistic.

If once the game releases they can optimise performance to the point its "playable" then that is about all you can expect, but expecting your system to be able to run flawlessly 1080p 60fps under all gameplay condition is basically delusional.

APRG's have and always will be extremely demanding on your CPU, any game that requires a significant number of draw calls to the GPU api will need a beefy CPU to keep up.


There are a lot of People that have same issues (not smooth gameplay) even with hardware better then mine.

Stop with this attitude that you and other people have.

"Buy another pc"
"You pc is a crap"
"Its EA!"
"It's Windows 11 fault"
"Touch the grass".

You really don't know what are you talking about.


Your PC isn't great. It's acceptable with low expectations of quality. It's about on par with the consoles for performance, and the game runs like poop on them!

It is early access (a beta effectively)

It has been a windows 11 issue, specifically with update 24h2, GGG themselves even said that.
Last edited by MadMossy#1934 on Feb 10, 2025, 1:31:06 PM
Most of the issues are caused indirectly by Windows 11, however I still see some people under Windows 10 having crashes tho I think those are related to another problem.

To those saying someone's CPU is outdated or not good enough, PoE2 is not a multicore game, it will use only 1 core close to the max and use some other cores partially; typical behavior of a "single core" game, same goes with PoE1, in both cases you can run the game just fine with a 4 cores CPU.

However if you don't have an high end video card, your performance will not be great in PoE2 which I believe is a very lack of optimization (or stuff get spammed behind the scene when it shouldn't).
Tech guy
zero problems
full smooth as fuck
ryzen 7 7800x3d
rtx 4070 ti super
nvme ssd pcie 5.0

But I know from friends that the game still has very few performance problems, and once these are fixed, PoE2 will be one of the best optimized games in my opinion.
There are some issues, they seem to be patched a bit after the last patch we received but it is not smooth, some maps are still a bit kappa, and Grass Tower is a gentle massacre for me as well.


I9 13900K
Asus GeForce RTX 4090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
Intel Z790
64GB of Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 3600MHz DDR4
GolompPL
It feels like the developers themselves are sitting on the forum and defending their game...
Show at least one poe 2 performance test, similar to my hardware, where there will be a stable 150+ fps. I'm especially interested in the Savannah map, it has such great performance and one of the "easiest" bosses)))

Let's be honest. There is no optimization in the game! And developers should understand this and solve this problem first of all, if of course they want the game to be truly successful.

AMD Ryzen 5 7500f, RTX 3060ti, 32gb ddr5, nvme ssd pcie 5.0

For such hardware, it is quite realistic to optimize, in which it will be possible to get 150+ stable frames per second at maximum settings. With all due respect, the graphics in the game are not at such a level that, at maximum settings, they do not have 150+ frames per second CONSISTENTLY. So far, these are just dreams that, it seems to me, the developer will successfully bury deeper into the ground.
Last edited by ОлежаТанк#0797 on Feb 11, 2025, 12:53:55 AM
i don't think it's UE though.

wasnt it some in-house engine they wrote themselves?

I was really wrong about the engine. Before the game was released, I read somewhere that the game would be developed on UE5.
This is good news, but I would like to hear from the developers about the constantly loading shaders in real time. It's disgusting, it breaks the promise of excellent performance.
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andred#5148 wrote:
they didnt lie it was a window issue for a lot of people. For myself the issue was resolved in the lastest windows patch ( MS even mention the issue it causes in the patch notes..)

I also think their last POE patch also fixed this issue for a lot of people , as you can see by the thread dedicated to the "freeze issue" has mostly stopped getting new reports

I'm sorry you still have this issue but you rant calling them liars isnt going ot help reslove it


Well, no disrespect, but wrong…and wrong.

The most significant problem is in fact with forced texture streaming destroying cpu performance REGARDLESS of hardware. Also, this issue has not been fixed or improved on whatsoever. Exact same issue. I have a $8,000 setup, and I crash, about every hour like clockwork.

You are being lied to by a $multi-billion company as usual. Why would that be any different here? The developers have absolutely no say on what gets focus. Executives make that decision based on the impact the decisions will have on future profits for shareholders/investors. They don’t want to lose their jobs. It’s actually very simple to understand. What makes the game money currently? Fancy armors and textures that HAVE to be streamed on consoles do to hardware limitations! Most PC users do not need/want texture streaming. Is the company going to develop two separate games for each platform? Absolutely not! Not as long as the google results for most negative feedback are pushed to page 23 of your search results (paid for BY THE GAME STUDIO) so that people like you can continue to assume positive intent, and your fragile view of reality is unharmed. You don’t have to worry about it once you’ve got your worries all packed up into a nice neat little box.

Don’t get this twisted. You and I are on the same side here. Yes, this may sound harsh, but like the comment you replied to, it has to be explained this way to stress the importance of not accepting garbage products with no respect to paying customers. It’s gotten far too out of hand in society today. Maybe you are ok with mediocre results, and ignoring issues that literally rot society at the core, but I’m not. I’m not ok with you defending a company of this magnitude for creating a trash product in the name of shareholder wealth. Stand up for yourself. I truly hope someday you understand the importance of speaking up when nobody else will. You’d be surprised how quickly people notice, and respect you for it.
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andred#5148 wrote:
they didnt lie it was a window issue for a lot of people. For myself the issue was resolved in the lastest windows patch ( MS even mention the issue it causes in the patch notes..)

I also think their last POE patch also fixed this issue for a lot of people , as you can see by the thread dedicated to the "freeze issue" has mostly stopped getting new reports

I'm sorry you still have this issue but you rant calling them liars isnt going ot help reslove it


Well, no disrespect, but wrong…and wrong.

The most significant problem is in fact with forced texture streaming destroying cpu performance REGARDLESS of hardware. Also, this issue has not been fixed or improved on whatsoever. Exact same issue. I have a $8,000 setup, and I crash, about every hour like clockwork.

You are being lied to by a $multi-billion company as usual. Why would that be any different here? The developers have absolutely no say on what gets focus. Executives make that decision based on the impact the decisions will have on future profits for shareholders/investors. They don’t want to lose their jobs. It’s actually very simple to understand. What makes the game money currently? Fancy armors and textures that HAVE to be streamed on consoles do to hardware limitations! Most PC users do not need/want texture streaming. Is the company going to develop two separate games for each platform? Absolutely not! Not as long as the google results for most negative feedback are pushed to page 23 of your search results (paid for BY THE GAME STUDIO) so that people like you can continue to assume positive intent, and your fragile view of reality is unharmed. You don’t have to worry about it once you’ve got your worries all packed up into a nice neat little box.

Don’t get this twisted. You and I are on the same side here. Yes, this may sound harsh, but like the comment you replied to, it has to be explained this way to stress the importance of not accepting garbage products with no respect to paying customers. It’s gotten far too out of hand in society today. Maybe you are ok with mediocre results, and ignoring issues that literally rot society at the core, but I’m not. I’m not ok with you defending a company of this magnitude for creating a trash product in the name of shareholder wealth. Stand up for yourself. I truly hope someday you understand the importance of speaking up when nobody else will. You’d be surprised how quickly people notice, and respect you for it.


I fully support you!
Nowadays, people don't really care how they are treated. It's enough for people to just hear what they want to hear. Capitalists have chosen a tricky path - to admit mistakes that it is beneficial for them to admit and emphasize on this, creating a situation in which they show themselves to be conscientious people.
But in fact, the essence does not change, it is still the same corporation that works primarily out of the interests of FIRST making money, and then, if possible, making a good game. Ideally, one does not exist without the other, but the priority should be reversed. But it probably won't happen in this universe anymore...
And a little higher up, one person answered me about my characteristics, saying it was ridiculous. Actually, it is an excellent demonstration of the mentality and intellectual state of the masses.

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