POE2 The Three Dragon with Archmage Bug
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UPDATE:
I did some more testing. I can confirm that The Three Dragon with Archmage does work although the shock chance is incredibly low despite I tried increasing either ignite chance/shock chance or both to test which one actually matters more. Due to the limitation of my gears I was only able to test around 200 increased chance This is about the interaction between The three dragon unique and Archmage. I noticed none of my fire spell skills (for example, fireball) could trigger shock when I have Archmage buff enabled. As far as I understand, Archmage adds "extra" lightning damage, not converting it. Instead of a chance to apply shock, when I enable the Archmage, fire damage from fireball will freeze the enemy ---- Just to add my points as a list (from below the conversation) 1. I have lightning damage as the main source of the damage. 2. I tried fireball without Archmage, and I was able to apply shock on enemies. 3. I tried testing Fireball with/without Archmage in the Aggorat, I've cleared most of the map area while I was doing this part of the test. Either I missed the enemies that have shock applied on them or I am just unlucky. I will try lower my overall damage to do the testing again, but I highly doubt that's the issue. Just what are the chances of not seeing one shock applied in this test. Last edited by alphautlin#4270 on Feb 5, 2025, 10:21:54 PM Last bumped on Feb 4, 2025, 8:25:05 PM
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The freeze buildup is coming from the lightning damage. With a spell that innately only inflicts fire damage used under the effects of Archmage, you will be dealing base fire damage and extra lightning damage. With the Three Dragons equipped, the fire damage has a chance to inflict shock, and the lightning damage has the ability to cause freeze buildup- however, the fire damage can no longer inflict ignite, and the lightning damage can no longer contribute to the chance to apply shock. The fire damage is not causing the freeze, the lightning damage is.
There are two possibilities I see here: the first is that the fire damage is simply not applying a shock. If you are using Archmage, I suspect you are primarily invested in lightning damage rather than fire damage- if most of your damage is lightning, and there is not much investment into chance to shock, it is likely that enemies are dying before a shock is applied- and because the lightning damage is applying a freeze, enemies that are potentially being shocked on the same hit that kills them will end up not showing it due to shattering. In order to test this, make sure you are scaling both shock chance and fire damage, to increase the amount of the damage that is eligible to apply a shock. Also, try to see if you can apply a shock with Archmage not active, so you are only dealing fire damage. The other possibility, if you are reasonably certain that your fire damage cannot apply a shock, is that something involved in the calculation is discarding the fire damage's ability to contribute to shock chance along with the lightning damage's ability to do so, for whatever reason. With that said, however, I can speak from personal experience that reliably applying shock can be pretty inconsistent even when just dealing pure lightning damage without extensive investment into chance to shock- so be sure that it isn't because of having very low odds to shock in the first place. (The freeze is, on the other hand, reliably occurring because that works on a buildup system that doesn't need to roll a chance to occur, and instead occurs after enough contributing damage has been dealt.) |
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" To answer some of your doubts. 1. You are right that I have lightning damage as the main source of the damage. 2. I tried fireball without Archmage, and I was able to apply shock on enemies. 3. I tried testing Fireball with/without Archmage in the Aggorat, I've cleared most of the map area while I was doing this part of the test. Either I missed the enemies that have shock applied on them or I am just unlucky. I will try lower my overall damage to do the testing again, but I highly doubt that's the issue. Just what are the chances of not seeing one shock applied in this test. Last edited by alphautlin#4270 on Feb 4, 2025, 8:25:40 PM
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