0.1.1 Heavily Nerfed Warriors

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chobo999#2010 wrote:

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Nagisawa#4090 wrote:

They're SUPPOSED to be building the game for new and casual players, because the Hardest of the Hardcore, the Elitists barely amount to 8K according to PoE1's charts, and those don't really buy much in terms of cosmetics.

So it's supposed to be easier to get into. Unfortunately if GGG is listening to anyone it's the Streamers and other Elitists.

Seems like it for now yes...

But this can change maybe...? Lol

I mean, if enough folks push back... you think they'd change the end-game/mapping i.e. "zoom zoom 1-shot"..?

Every gamer on the planet that enjoys zoom zoom 1-shot already plays PoE1 or D4. If they don't steer the PoE2 endgame away from that they are going to keep turning away massively more players than they could ever keep in the long haul.

We can only hope...

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LVSviral#3689 wrote:

Every gamer on the planet that enjoys zoom zoom 1-shot already plays PoE1 or D4. If they don't steer the PoE2 endgame away from that they are going to keep turning away massively more players than they could ever keep in the long haul.

We can only hope...

Hmm... not sure about your point on D4.

So you feel many D4 players are playing PoE2 now? What makes you say that..?

Isn't D4 just like D3...?

My bad, I never really played D4. Technically I played it for an hour when they released it for free for like a weekend in beta a while back but that's it.

From that, I don't really see conversion of D4 to PoE2?

(we all know PoE1 has tiny playerbase at least lol...I mean I saw a post in this thread or some other thread where they said 8K playerbase for PoE1 I think)

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chobo999#2010 wrote:

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LVSviral#3689 wrote:

Every gamer on the planet that enjoys zoom zoom 1-shot already plays PoE1 or D4. If they don't steer the PoE2 endgame away from that they are going to keep turning away massively more players than they could ever keep in the long haul.

We can only hope...

Hmm... not sure about your point on D4.

So you feel many D4 players are playing PoE2 now? What makes you say that..?

Isn't D4 just like D3...?

My bad, I never really played D4. Technically I played it for an hour when they released it for free for like a weekend in beta a while back but that's it.

From that, I don't really see conversion of D4 to PoE2?

(we all know PoE1 has tiny playerbase at least lol...I mean I saw a post in this thread or some other thread where they said 8K playerbase for PoE1 I think)

I'm not saying they are playing PoE2 now, I'm saying the zoom zoom enjoyers won't convert to PoE2 from D4. I don't enjoy D4 either. I just know that the endgame is brainrot blaster, but more braindead than PoE.

PoE1 tiny playerbase is cause the zoom zoom blasters always quite fast after every content update since their own play-style causes burnout and the endgame has nothing to offer zoom zoom blasters since all content is identically 1 shotted.

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Kraythax#2592 wrote:

I had been relaxing playing my Ruthless Chieftain in POE1 (yes compared to POE2 it's relaxing) and thought I would check out the effect of the patch.

So I logged into my SSF warrior to see how it has changed and the reality is he is nerfed. He used to be able to leap slam into a pack and stun enemies then bone shatter them. It made maps at least somewhat doable. I ran a yellow tier 4 map; tier 4 because I have not been able to upgrade equipment enough to get tier 5 as POE2 the gear is a TOTAL SLOT MACHINE and the RNG gods hate me.

So I get in the map and I am noticing a lot more friction. Sometimes I am jumping into packs and priming half the monsters for stun that I used to. Blue packs I am often getting only 2/3 primed for stun. It was much harder and of course I died in the map. If I dont stun anything they all hit me and even though I built Armor / Evasion, I only have 2k life whereas ES builds are running 5k to 8k ES by now. Confused, I logged off in annoyance.

Today, I found a video by Kripparian that explained it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95hnjc2YHRw

Oh .... you changed the formula so monsters are harder to stun. So in other words one could ask, "GGG didnt nerf the uber arsonist, map clearing herald of ice spark autobomber but the one class in the game that was the weakest?"

In a word ... yes.

Yes, saw it now.

Sure you did too of course.

So, you just want confirmation that you the "15% armor increase effective" buff --- was not really a buff..? I mean Kripp explains it all well no? Lol.

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Kraythax#2592 wrote:

I had been relaxing playing my Ruthless Chieftain in POE1 (yes compared to POE2 it's relaxing) and thought I would check out the effect of the patch.

So I logged into my SSF warrior to see how it has changed and the reality is he is nerfed. He used to be able to leap slam into a pack and stun enemies then bone shatter them. It made maps at least somewhat doable. I ran a yellow tier 4 map; tier 4 because I have not been able to upgrade equipment enough to get tier 5 as POE2 the gear is a TOTAL SLOT MACHINE and the RNG gods hate me.

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Hard to take your OP seriously when you run tier 4 maps. SSF I have a 86 Titan and a 87 Warbringer (edit: also pSSF) both use totems (aftershock, and sunder), so the gear is a little easier to put together. I run tier XV maps, admittedly having to actively block constantly to avoid random damage spikes.

For me the update overall is positive. Volatile plants is easier to see. The insane slaps you get from random trash mobs has been toned down a bit. Things are a little bit smoother.

I know because my new Titan around level 75-80 was getting spanked all the time and since 0.1.1 I got to level 86 and doing tier XV maps without too much trouble.

By the way how on Earth do you notice a difference between tier 4 and 5? It's like almost unnoticeable, it's not like some new special attacks from monsters are enabled at tier 5. It; s just overall damage that increases very gradually.

The only thing that matters is levels. If you are too close to the monster level of the map you get hit way more, and harder. In POE 2 you can easily be 5 levels above content and still get great XP you should be patient after finishing campaign run at least 20 level 1-5 maps before pushing further, us to get easy levels and gear.

Tier 4 map is level 68 without irradiated/corrupter. So you should be level 73 at least to have an easier time. I'm level 86 still getting decent XP from tier XV maps which are monster level 79.

The level difference

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Kraythax#2592 wrote:

Wow, the elitism here is ... disturbing ... because I don't watch some content creator and copy his build with the right uniques and right skills I shouldn't play I guess.

Well I play SSF and I craft all of my own gear, do all of my own thing and still got my warrior to 80, without someone else thinking for me. It worked just fine.

I wonder is that the game that GGG is building POE2 for then? I guess, play one of 5 meta builds, don't do your own thing, don't try stuff, don't explore, just be another sheep?

Pass.

What noone said you didnt copy or watch something

I am SSF as well. And a warrior. With resonating shield and rolling slam/bleed. Probably ~4 players do this lol.


Thing is you say that a t4 is giving you trouble with stunning a mob.

That tells me your setup, copied or not, is horrific the buff to armour barely does anything to armour break at this level.

And if you have none, yes you are attempting to not armour break on a physical attacking warrior class. Which would be int.

Though all you have said is leap slap and boneshatter.

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chobo999#2010 wrote:

Seems like it for now yes...

But this can change maybe...? Lol

I mean, if enough folks push back... you think they'd change the end-game/mapping i.e. "zoom zoom 1-shot"..?

I did say IF THEY LISTEN... Honestly, I sincerely think they don't. I think these forums are for us to scream into the void, feel better and go play PoE or some other game.

Speaking of, I'm going to go back to Grim Dawn. Not perfect, but at least I have fun.

Are they really fucking crazy?!

99% of the game is broken, witch is bending the ladder and they are still “Slashing” the war?

motherfuckers

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Kraythax#2592 wrote:

I ran a yellow tier 4 map; tier 4 because I have not been able to upgrade equipment enough to get tier 5 as POE2 the gear is a TOTAL SLOT MACHINE and the RNG gods hate me.

Didn't really need to read further than this. You blame RNG and lack of gear....instead of your build. And now you experience more problems. The issues you already had pre-patch were exacerbated post-patch. Problems that YOU should have already solved, rendering them near non-existent with this change. I say "near" because this IS a nerf, it just isn't a big nerf as described.

Warrior has enough problems without fake, hyper-exaggerated claims like this one cluttering up the forums.