Should I upgrade to new PC or wait for a performance fix?

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boowa86#1517 wrote:

It's weird how poe2 is actually optimized.
I have an old ryzen 5 1600, 16 gb ram and 5700xt, installed it on nvme2 drive.
No crashes, no frame drops, latest windows version.
Everything is on high, fps capped to 60.

It is quite interesting to see that people with high end pcs that run with Windows 11 seems to have the most problems. I tested it on my older pc that still has Windows 10 and older Nvidia drivers and it runs perfect there. Not a single crash and rarely lags or frame drops. Because it is smooth sailing there I solely play on that pc for now.

Imo go for upgrade. If graphics stays on same level as it is now, you should.

Suggestion would be desktop, 6000mhz RAM, 4080 and 7800 x3d chip for 1440p 120hz.

Nevertheless I would wait a month or two after new GPU are released and check out how it performs on different bases. But would not go lower than above written setup.

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Rexeos#3429 wrote:

after new GPU are released and check out how it performs on different bases

If you're speaking about Nvidia 50xx series and DLSS 4, DLSS 4 support should be inplemented in PoE2 to see promised Nvidia mAIgic at work. Until that, GPU will work with DLSS 3.

You have a 2 year old GPU and recent CPU, upgrading would be insanity it would maybe give you 10 FPS more for lots of money, especially with the bad modern optimization and half assed fixxes as DLSS in games these days.

Wait for updates. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and 3070 on Win 10 and performance for me is mostly fine only dropping in very high intensity maps and breach. Also I always suggest a actual PC for gaming since laptops tend to get quite hot which costs performance.

Maxing your cpu or gpu in this game will do nothing. There are some builds and fights where once everything is going it will simply chug.

Not on best in class gpu but have 9800x3d and 3080 in balanced and it does little to help moments where the game is overwhelmed.

Decent hardware helps but game needs optimization for heavy moments. Put up with it and hope GGG bothers to do some heavy testing of their game for once.

This game is very CPU heavy compared to other games like shooter games, since there is a lot of calculations this game have to do for example many projectiles that have to check against every monster in the map if they hit it, then calculate things like crits, AoE explosions they might create then also have to check what they hit, damage buffs you character suddenly got because you for example critically hit a monster and you have passives that give you damage buff when you crit. Some other monsters got ignited and that has to be calculated etc.

I think that since GGG wants people with lower ram / vram to also be able to play the game, the game ends up having to loading a lot of textures / models when they are needed making having a decent SSD (m.2) important if you want a good performance.

GPU is probably the least important/impactful part for a game like this.

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akovachev#5666 wrote:

Do you think I should upgrade or wait until it gets pathched?

I would wait. They already announced a bit of a performance update with accessing the map in 0.1.1. Also, because the game is in such an early state, I'm sure they have a number of "catches" in the code for finding bugs/crashes, all of which impact performance. I would recommend waiting until at least 0.5.0 before you start seriously thinking about upgrading. At that point, you'll be able to see what performance upgrades they've applied at that time to somewhat judge how much more things may improve by launch.

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Lufia555#5419 wrote:

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boowa86#1517 wrote:

It's weird how poe2 is actually optimized.
I have an old ryzen 5 1600, 16 gb ram and 5700xt, installed it on nvme2 drive.
No crashes, no frame drops, latest windows version.
Everything is on high, fps capped to 60.

It is quite interesting to see that people with high end pcs that run with Windows 11 seems to have the most problems. I tested it on my older pc that still has Windows 10 and older Nvidia drivers and it runs perfect there. Not a single crash and rarely lags or frame drops. Because it is smooth sailing there I solely play on that pc for now.

I think it's a combo of vendor malware (iCUE, Asus Armoury crate, whatever RGB software) with Win11 because I've not heard a single person running a clean windows with no garbage having issues even with systems below recommended.

Then again, RGB was always negative FPS.

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akovachev#5666 wrote:

Hello,

I have never had fps issues with games until POE2. Which is surprising because the game shouldn't be so intensive. Do you think I should upgrade or wait until it gets pathched?

I mostly run over 100fps, however in intense battles and effects it goes to 30-40, I have tried lowering everything, but still no improvement.

I have 4070 laptop with i9 -13900 and 32gb ram. 4k is barely 60fps.

Other games run smoothly 1440p, even heavy 3d shooters.

This seems more like you're getting throttled thermally or not using the right power plan/running off battery more than a limitation of the hardware. I never drop that low with my 5600x/3070 machine. And a laptop4070 is pretty equal to a desktop 3070 same thing with a 13900H to a 5600x with the 13900H being a bit better.

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Lufia555#5419 wrote:

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boowa86#1517 wrote:

It's weird how poe2 is actually optimized.
I have an old ryzen 5 1600, 16 gb ram and 5700xt, installed it on nvme2 drive.
No crashes, no frame drops, latest windows version.
Everything is on high, fps capped to 60.

It is quite interesting to see that people with high end pcs that run with Windows 11 seems to have the most problems. I tested it on my older pc that still has Windows 10 and older Nvidia drivers and it runs perfect there. Not a single crash and rarely lags or frame drops. Because it is smooth sailing there I solely play on that pc for now.

Can confirm that. Out of all people I know I have the smoothest experience with my Medion erazer Notebook that cost me like 700 euro 1 or 2 years ago. I had more problems with D4. However I also know a person that spent 4k in a gaming pc last year and cannot run the game even with lowest settings. There seem to be serious issues with the last Nvidia chipseries but I also think there was a patch announced from Nvidia Side soon as communicated during 0.1.1 reveal. Maybe wait for this at least before upgrading.