The Fourth Acendency Point should never be an End Game Pinnacle content

The power level of the fourth acendancy should between end of campaign and pinnacle bosses. The fourth acendency should help you process into the pinnacle bosses. In POE2 a full run of any of the trial is as hard as or harder than any content in the game, so what is the purpose of getting the fourth acendancey point if you can clear all the content without it.

Make Ultimatum and Sanctum for acendancy is such a bad idea, if made them too easy then it will become the best way to make currency. So you can never balance them. And in POE1 why there are still people running Sanctum is because Sanctum drops raw currency and it is kind of the most efficient way to make currency(you dont need to waste time on trading).

I have 2 solutions for the fourth acendancy points

1. Make a shirne at the end of the trail like the gate for trailmaster, the first time you insert the fragment you unlock the seal which gives your fourth ascendancy and the right to fight the pinnacle boss. The next time you insert the fragment you will fight the pinnacle boss and for the Sanctum trial you insert the fragment at the beginning which can let you run the final floor.

2. Make a fixed, well designed trail only for the acendency point, the afflictions and debuffs are so lethal in both of the trails, a 4 floor run will always break your build easily even with average RNG.

My thoughts are that the fourth ascendancy needs a little more work:

1. Perhaps add two additional mechanics that we can run for ascendancy?? This will give a little additional freedom so a wider spectrum of builds can run the content -- hopefully without frustration.

2. Once we attempt the fourth ascension once make an ascension-only key available if we fail the trial. This will lower the RNG drop pressure behind getting a key.

3. Scale the fourth attempt to where a L75-ish player would be [maybe around L72 content??] Lowering the monster level by a bit while also lowering the level that a key can drop by a few levels would be appreciated.

4. Review the list of "debuffs" the player can effectively wind up with. For example I [foolishly] chose "Volatiles on death" as one of my Trial of Chaos debuffs. As it turns out the volatiles in the trials move MUCH faster than the similar volatiles in the rest of the game meaning that the danger level was not telegraphed ahead of time.

You may want to consider this is only half of the game as EA, and it's not unthinkable to imagine that third and fourth ascendency might be "dungeon" content too in the missing Acts 4 and 5 (out of 6), by simple extrapolation.

So before asking a rework or rebalance of what may just be placeholder content, you'd have to practice a little patience. If ascendency isn't needed for high end content, it's only your own expectation of "I want to have all my points" in comparaison to the first game that need to change.

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

You may want to consider this is only half of the game as EA, and it's not unthinkable to imagine that third and fourth ascendency might be "dungeon" content too in the missing Acts 4 and 5 (out of 6), by simple extrapolation.

So before asking a rework or rebalance of what may just be placeholder content, you'd have to practice a little patience. If ascendency isn't needed for high end content, it's only your own expectation of "I want to have all my points" in comparaison to the first game that need to change.

Dude, it's a a month. All players are aware it's ea. It's a excuse at this point. This is called feedback.


The trials are one of the most rage inducing things to exist.

Not sure why after one month you need to tell people how ggg are doing things when they haven't said anything since the 16th.


Ggg fix your trials

Hardest end-game pinnacle boss is the game crash. He's completely unbeatable and can spawn at any time, at any level. Even in hideout, even between zones during loading screens.

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toxiitea#5772 wrote:

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

You may want to consider this is only half of the game as EA, and it's not unthinkable to imagine that third and fourth ascendency might be "dungeon" content too in the missing Acts 4 and 5 (out of 6), by simple extrapolation.

So before asking a rework or rebalance of what may just be placeholder content, you'd have to practice a little patience. If ascendency isn't needed for high end content, it's only your own expectation of "I want to have all my points" in comparaison to the first game that need to change.

Dude, it's a a month. All players are aware it's ea. It's a excuse at this point. This is called feedback.


The trials are one of the most rage inducing things to exist.

Not sure why after one month you need to tell people how ggg are doing things when they haven't said anything since the 16th.


Ggg fix your trials

If you know what's an EA, then you'd know GGG has more important things to do than balancing trials, like fixing bugs, exploits, for multiple plateforms, and to improve server stability, among other important tasks like adding contents, acts, classes, animations, interactive skill gems, league mecanics, and such.

Balance is not the priority.

The game IS working, which is already a feat as the first working beta available. You paid to play and early version of the game : you can play it just fine. You want the content to be adjusted ? We all do. It will eventually happen ; somewhere between now and next year.

My main is in his 90s, I have another 80. I refuse to even attempt the 4th ascendancy once I saw I have to keep retrying ultimatum to get the pieces to open the door. I did it once, saw I needed 2 more fragments, and said "nah, this isn't fun". Sekhemas isn't fun either. I'm fine with 3/4 ascendancy at this point and refuse to even attempt 4/4 until changes are made.

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

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toxiitea#5772 wrote:

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

You may want to consider this is only half of the game as EA, and it's not unthinkable to imagine that third and fourth ascendency might be "dungeon" content too in the missing Acts 4 and 5 (out of 6), by simple extrapolation.

So before asking a rework or rebalance of what may just be placeholder content, you'd have to practice a little patience. If ascendency isn't needed for high end content, it's only your own expectation of "I want to have all my points" in comparaison to the first game that need to change.

Dude, it's a a month. All players are aware it's ea. It's a excuse at this point. This is called feedback.


The trials are one of the most rage inducing things to exist.

Not sure why after one month you need to tell people how ggg are doing things when they haven't said anything since the 16th.


Ggg fix your trials

If you know what's an EA, then you'd know GGG has more important things to do than balancing trials, like fixing bugs, exploits, for multiple plateforms, and to improve server stability, among other important tasks like adding contents, acts, classes, animations, interactive skill gems, league mecanics, and such.

Balance is not the priority.

The game IS working, which is already a feat as the first working beta available. You paid to play and early version of the game : you can play it just fine. You want the content to be adjusted ? We all do. It will eventually happen ; somewhere between now and next year.

I do know what EA is for and they need to remove them completely and come up with a better idea because what they have is a disaster. I don't need to hear an opinion also thanks.