Ascendancy feels horrible. It needs to change, or my support of this game will feel wasted.

I finally found a build I like, up until now I've just been leveling one character after another to maps before I decide to dedicate much time to the endgame.

Finally found a build I like, and I've been going through maps. Decided to give my 3rd Ascendency point a go, and my experience pretty has me regretting my supporter pack purchases, to be honest. If this mechanic stays as is, that is just... wasted money. I will not play this game in this state. It needs to change, and in a huge way.

Few points: This is my 4th character to hit maps. This is also the first character to actually find a token that actually let me Ascend the third time. At level 73. I have about 40 various Ulti/Sanc tokens, and they are all basically trash. None of them open up a 3rd ascendancy, and you get your first 2 in the story guaranteed. What's the point of them?

I spent about an hour going through BOTH floors. I had 36% Honor resist, I think. Didn't know I had to do my first Ascendency over again in order to get my 3rd. That's kinda stupid. Stupid and time consuming. I lost about 100 honor until I got to the twin bosses. I have never done this fight. I didn't know their moves. They have huge AoE that isn't telegraphed because I can't see the actual enemies, they're huge and hiding behind their own gigantic health bars.

So, I lost next to no honor the entire time and then died with both of them at about 10% each in the last room. They hit me 4 times.

My 3rd point. Took me till level 73 to even get an attempt. On my 4th character. Took an hour to do, which I did very well, and then wasted every single second of it because of bad boss/ui design and an unfamiliarity with the boss which allowed them to hit me four. times.


Great.

Fantastic.

Y'all can keep it. This is horrible to force people to do. Horrible experience. What a complete waste of time and energy and effort.

Neither Sanctum nor Ultimatum have ANY PLACE being forced upon anyone. These were mechanics that lots of people despised. These mechanics ARE NOT UNIVERSALLY BUILD-FRIENDLY. Full stop. They should have been laughed out of the meeting room simply because of that fact.

The end. Not touching it. This is an actual slap in the face. This entire one-death fascination forced-hardcore nonsense is an actual fucking shame, because the game is good.

Bring the Lab and Izaro back here right the @)#(& now.

This feels horrible in so many ways. I am so mad right now.

Ascendancy is supposed to test your build, not how well you can play Sanctum. The entire idea that suddenly your defenses don't matter, your damage barely matters, nothing in your entire build matters, except not getting hit, is so unbelieveably counter-intuitive to the whole entire idea of ascendancy, that again, I actually cannot fathom how we got here in the first place. This mechanic nearly REQUIRES CERTAIN BUILD ARCHETYPES to be successful, which is completely asinine to force LITERALLYE VERY BUILD IN THE GAME to do!!!

It's the exact same with Ultimatum. There are far too many times when your 3 choices are just 3 different ways to make your build not function at all. There are plenty, plenty of builds who can get totally gutted in Ultimatum and just have to start over, just because of an RNG slot machine debuff. Completely irresponsible to put this mechanic in charge of player progression.

Both of them. It's trash. Change it.

Bring back lab an izaro?

No

Go play POE1 if thats truly what you want.


POE2 is not going to be that.


Your problems with sekhemas have everything to do with stuff you admitted in this post. Mechanical struggles. Just take a bit more time you dont have to face rush the bosses there is no time limit and their mechanics are well telegraphed.

For the third ascendancy I would suggest farming your "crap tokens" for honour resist cap and then you will have no trouble.

Scorp really just has the tail swing and ... thats it. Thats the only mechanic to really worry about.


Fourth boss is up to you whether you want to go in with a guide or not. You havent made it that far so I will leave that to you without spoilers. There is a slight issue with it but nothing game breaking or preventative.

i agree with the op.


and yes, bring back the og lab as the 3rd way to ascend, fuck these awful ultimatum and sekhemas bullshit mechanics that are totally bent out of shape when it comes to how much they bias one build over another.


if i actually want to farm either of these awful things i would make a dedicated character for them, esp the sek one because its so build bias it just screams to have a character built to take advantage of how it functions.



we were told if we hated one way of ascending we could just ascend using the other mechanic. well sek is off the cards for my character because its completely anti every way ive built my character.

im now level 80 and i cant even attempt my 3rd set of pints because i dont have an ultimatum with 10 rounds. i havent found one. and im going to have to do a 10 round ultimatum just for the merciless lab? my 3rd points?


what?




this system is fking dogshit. yes bring back izzaro, absolutely, that was a million times better than this.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Bring back lab an izaro?

Your problems with sekhemas have everything to do with stuff you admitted in this post. Mechanical struggles. Just take a bit more time you dont have to face rush the bosses there is no time limit and their mechanics are well telegraphed.

For the third ascendancy I would suggest farming your "crap tokens" for honour resist cap and then you will have no trouble.

I only lost about 100 honor for the entirety of both floors. Not like, I ended up at the last boss with -100, I barely lost any. Out of like, 2800, I only lost 100 the entire time. I literally couldn't see the last boss, and despite them doing little to no damage to me, the edges of their huge AoE's grazed me 4 single times and that's what cost me that hour of play. I didn't rush or facetank anything. You literally CAN'T do that in Sanctum. That's not "Mechanical struggles" on my end, other than ever-so-slightly faily to avoid a huge AoE I can barely see coming through the giant half-cut-off enemies covered by their giant health bars.

That's a mechanical issue on GGG's end.

I assume your misquoted "crap tokens" are a reference to relics? Considering I've only ever brought 4 characters up to 2 points, I don't have a to choose from. Most of the good ones are on the other characters. I did this run with 32% honor resistance, which I think is pretty good for having exactly no slots unlocked.