Out of waystones, now what?

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:
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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:
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How does people run out of waystones? I am genuinely confused. Are you runing them white? No alch, no transmute? Or just constantly dying in every map? I play like a cabbage but damn, I never run out of them.


The drop rates are not consistent for everyone. Most people run out trying to complete the quests when the game drops T4 maps in T8 (means you are losing maps even if you complete them).


It's not consistent because of the PLAYER. It is 100% consistent for those that understand how sustain work and follow the same simple rules that have been posted in the ten thousand threads about this topic.


Just because you got lucky does not mean it is not a problem. Design is broken when you need to play on 300% multipliers and only kill bosses, stop relying on poe1 knowledge to justify something that is obviously broken in an EA game.
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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:
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Valsacar#0268 wrote:
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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:

The drop rates are not consistent for everyone. Most people run out trying to complete the quests when the game drops T4 maps in T8 (means you are losing maps even if you complete them).


It's not consistent because of the PLAYER. It is 100% consistent for those that understand how sustain work and follow the same simple rules that have been posted in the ten thousand threads about this topic.


Just because you got lucky does not mean it is not a problem. Design is broken when you need to play on 300% multipliers and only kill bosses, stop relying on poe1 knowledge to justify something that is obviously broken in an EA game.


It is not luck, it is understanding how the system works and utilizing it properly.

If it was just luck, why is it that every single person saying there's no sustain problem if you follow these steps are all giving the same basic steps to solve sustain? Shouldn't it be more like citadels where there's about 20 different theories for how to find them?

If it was just luck, then sooner or later we'd run out of it and be out of maps and yet... a month in, still no problems at all. I still consistently over sustain and either sell or just vendor them.
I can sell you 30 T15 Maps. 2 Ex each
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Maldosam#3663 wrote:
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Does the game really expect you to go back and buy level 3 waystones from the merchant and hope I work my way up to 15 sometime this decade? What's with the abysmal waystone drop rate of equal or higher level stones despite having invested points in the passive tree accordingly?
Is there any other way I can get high level stones? I'd appreciate some help


I can say without a doubt if you are running out of waystones youre doing something terribly wrong. I've walked a couple friends through what they were doing wrong and not a single one has an issue. Take the time to do a little research on what youre doing wrong and dont make non stop posts like this


Oh look, the feces slinging baboon is back to attack an unsuspecting player. The OP created just on lone post. They barely participated in other threads you moron.


Oh look, another angry player who would rather attack people on the forums instead of learning the fundamentals of the game.
Step 1 is to self reflect.
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Does the game really expect you to go back and buy level 3 waystones from the merchant and hope I work my way up to 15 sometime this decade? What's with the abysmal waystone drop rate of equal or higher level stones despite having invested points in the passive tree accordingly?
Is there any other way I can get high level stones? I'd appreciate some help


> abysmal waystone drop rate



It's simple, just get good at the game.
waystone drops are fine
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Valsacar#0268 wrote:


If it was just luck, then sooner or later we'd run out of it and be out of maps and yet... a month in, still no problems at all. I still consistently over sustain and either sell or just vendor them.


That's as good as just playing the 2-3 meta builds and saying everything is okay. Again, if game needs players to play boss nodes only for progression, it would have made that a quest instead of asking to clear 10x whatever. Apparently getting maps is harder than clearing them, is this game about finding maps or actually killing stuff?
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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:
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Valsacar#0268 wrote:


If it was just luck, then sooner or later we'd run out of it and be out of maps and yet... a month in, still no problems at all. I still consistently over sustain and either sell or just vendor them.


That's as good as just playing the 2-3 meta builds and saying everything is okay. Again, if game needs players to play boss nodes only for progression, it would have made that a quest instead of asking to clear 10x whatever. Apparently getting maps is harder than clearing them, is this game about finding maps or actually killing stuff?


Clearly you want an excuse for your problem instead of a solution.

I have QUAD TABS full of maps. I almost NEVER do boss nodes at this point.

You're doing it wrong or dying constantly. It's not you getting unlucky somehow, you're just not LEARNING what you need to do.
Step 1 is to self reflect.
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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:
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Valsacar#0268 wrote:


If it was just luck, then sooner or later we'd run out of it and be out of maps and yet... a month in, still no problems at all. I still consistently over sustain and either sell or just vendor them.


That's as good as just playing the 2-3 meta builds and saying everything is okay. Again, if game needs players to play boss nodes only for progression, it would have made that a quest instead of asking to clear 10x whatever. Apparently getting maps is harder than clearing them, is this game about finding maps or actually killing stuff?


i dont play meta build, never had any problems to find waystones. run them rare, use tablets, do mechanics and bosses, problem solved.
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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:
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Valsacar#0268 wrote:


If it was just luck, then sooner or later we'd run out of it and be out of maps and yet... a month in, still no problems at all. I still consistently over sustain and either sell or just vendor them.


That's as good as just playing the 2-3 meta builds and saying everything is okay. Again, if game needs players to play boss nodes only for progression, it would have made that a quest instead of asking to clear 10x whatever. Apparently getting maps is harder than clearing them, is this game about finding maps or actually killing stuff?


Clearly you want an excuse for your problem instead of a solution.

I have QUAD TABS full of maps. I almost NEVER do boss nodes at this point.

You're doing it wrong or dying constantly. It's not you getting unlucky somehow, you're just not LEARNING what you need to do.


Yup, the boss nodes are kind of like the cheat code to get you going. Once you are able to run really well juiced maps sustain isn't too much of an issue at all. But those boss nodes are almost guaranteed to give you multiple high tier maps if you use them right, so an easy fix when you're first struggling.

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