A worst endgame experience than Diablo 4

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Marrkix#5815 wrote:
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Yeah, there might be something wrong with you since that's the part most people don't like at all.


Seeing you spam about how you hate the game, I would guess it's something wrong with you. Go do something more productive and stop getting frustrated over it.


Thank you.
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I can't believe how bad the endgame is compared to the campaign. It is so bad in fact that I'd much rather reinstall Diablo 4 which I deleted thinking this was going to be THE ARPG. It's just not there yet and I'm sad to say I don't know if it will be. I Hope GGG cooks up this game as the master piece it should be but if this is the foundation ( a lot of bad game design ) I am left unsure about the replayability of it.

Games shouldn't make me feel like ill end up wasting my time but this one is one of the very few where that is the case. I want to sink so much time into it but I know it will be more punishing than anything.

I can only hope for the games success moving forward and play the campaign exclusively because the current direction of endgame is horrid.


Worse endgame than D4?....D4 has an endgame beside 1 hitting 99% of the content and boring GA gear farming to push Pit 150? ^^

Some context would be nice why it's the worst endgame for you because I'm having a blast even after 200 hours. ^^

Is it to easy? to hard? You die to often? Not often enough? Not enough gear? To much gear?

And aren't games here to waste time?

For me it's already a masterpiece and I'm enjoying every second to min/max my gear in endgame while releveling multiple chars with different friends.

Knowledge is the key in this game and as more knowlege you have as more enjoyable will be your progress. ;)
yo. diablo 4 doesnt have an endgame yet. lol
still waiting on teh leaderboards
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CroDanZ#1818 wrote:
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I can't believe how bad the endgame is compared to the campaign. It is so bad in fact that I'd much rather reinstall Diablo 4 which I deleted thinking this was going to be THE ARPG. It's just not there yet and I'm sad to say I don't know if it will be. I Hope GGG cooks up this game as the master piece it should be but if this is the foundation ( a lot of bad game design ) I am left unsure about the replayability of it.

Games shouldn't make me feel like ill end up wasting my time but this one is one of the very few where that is the case. I want to sink so much time into it but I know it will be more punishing than anything.

I can only hope for the games success moving forward and play the campaign exclusively because the current direction of endgame is horrid.


Worse endgame than D4?....D4 has an endgame beside 1 hitting 99% of the content and boring GA gear farming to push Pit 150? ^^

Some context would be nice why it's the worst endgame for you because I'm having a blast even after 200 hours. ^^

Is it to easy? to hard? You die to often? Not often enough? Not enough gear? To much gear?

And aren't games here to waste time?

For me it's already a masterpiece and I'm enjoying every second to min/max my gear in endgame while releveling multiple chars with different friends.

Knowledge is the key in this game and as more knowlege you have as more enjoyable will be your progress. ;)


I'm glad you enjoy it. However just because you like something doesn't necessarily make it "good" and you really came off as extremely biased.

You stated to have leveled up multiple characters, insinuating you have the time to do so. Majority of players , and I'm talking at least 80%, do not have as much free time to pour into a video game. The time I invest into endgame is met with little to no return in terms of quality of loot, character progression, an overall sense of progression since citadels are rng based, and extremely punishing death tolls to sprinkle on top.

This game design in , in retrospect, has never been a fun and rewarding system of gameplay EVER. I can't think of a single title that operated in such a way and was successful. I reiterate if you enjoy it as it is that is completely fine, but It does not take away from that fact that the design of the endgame is extremely disrespectful to someone's time.

Games ,like other hobbies, aren't a waste of time if you enjoyed the time you spent. The current state of endgame is more infuriating and punishing beyond the means I and others deem justifiable. Go ahead and read all the other posts about how bad the endgame is.

I would respectively ask you to stop and think if the average person who has a life would find the "1 step forward 3 steps back" design of endgame deaths enjoyable. You gain so little and can lose too much. Anyone who respects their time will immediately see the faults in GGG's choice of game design and step away for something that is more rewarding and enjoyable.

You are the minority of people who speak for the community as a whole and unless your a streamer or content creator that is a degenerate amount of time spent withing the past 2 weeks but if you enjoyed it than I'm very happy for you.

Acknowledging terrible choices and execution will give the feed back to the dev's to address what needs to be addressed. I really do hope you enjoy it as much as you do for another 1k hours but it needs to be drastically improved upon and we need to cut the crap and call out when things are trash .

Have fun and good Luck!

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