Why is Chalupa Monk so poorly designed? Suggestions on how to improve.

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LaNSa#2186 wrote:

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Xenus_Paradox#7530 wrote:

20% of max mana would be over 80, and I'm spending 15 per swing on Tempest Flurry which has a tooltip attack interval of 0.17-0.19 depending on whether my man is topped up (using the unique gloves that give you +25% AS at 90%+ mana). The 3rd and 4th hits are slower and I'm using Crescendo to add a second final hit, so the actual speed is a lot slower.

15 X 5 = 75, and I'm doing most of my damage as lightning, so the bottleneck here is absolutely not the cap. It's the raw amount being leeched.

Similarly, my max ES is over 200, so it should be capped at 20 per second. I'm not getting anywhere near that amount - and I've been carefully tracking when I get hit using Wind Dancer (the wind blast is super obvious) and an instant recovery life flask to stay topped up (so it's obvious when iose any HP).

The problem is 100% that monk doesn't have any decent physical DPS skills.

Okey current monk lacks when it comes to physical skills to use but there is some skills that actually work. warrior also have some skills you can use with quarterstaff and you could just use mace.
So assuming you dont convert all your dmg to elemental and get you dps really high that leftover physical dmg might just be enough.

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Cenerae#4481 wrote:

I wonder if Chayula might work a little better once other weapon types come out... Quarterstaff skills mostly convert a lot of your physical damage to elemental, but that's presumably not going to be the case for sword or dagger etc.

It'll still probably need help even there but at least it should function properly.

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masskillers#5403 wrote:

No experience with Chayula monk but 100% agree on the spirit penalty being too harsh for the darkness gains. Unless a unqiue comes in that removes all spirit in exchange for big gains could be synergistic. Also flames spawn change sounds really good and well thought out.

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The_Song#4903 wrote:

Some notes:

As this subclass of monk, your "chosen element" is physical and chaos.
You should not be speccing into lightning or frost.
You want chaos nodes, physical nodes, a weapon that doesn't deal any element damage in the first place, and you wont keep using Tempest Flurry or Ice Strike as your main damage.
I brought myself through to cruel difficulty using Nazir's Judgement, a physical only unique quarterstaff. I'm still using it but might replace it with a physical only rare soon.

Chayula's Gift, if anything and at all worth taking, is there to counteract Spaghettification.
I'm not currently using it, but that's what it would be for, aside from just not needing to build as much resist as other builds.

So far I am definitely finding the bonus damage from Embrace the Darkness worth not using the Spirit skills.
If you choose to take Embrace the Darkness, you build for using Darkness.
You go more into chaos damage, throw in some poison since chaos damage helps it, and you protect your Darkness bar.
I'm going to take Mind of Matter and Eldritch Battery to let mana be my health while my Darkness stays full.

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Xenus_Paradox#7530 wrote:

What skills are you using that don't convert most of your damage to elemental?

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The_Song#4903 wrote:

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Xenus_Paradox#7530 wrote:

What skills are you using that don't convert most of your damage to elemental?

One could choose to use maces, and I imagine once released dagger and sword will be better than maces for monk.

In the meantime I've been using the wind and chaos quarterstaff skills.
If something is to be called my main damage so far, it would either be the bell buffed by Mantra of Destruction, or the projectiles from Staggering Palm.
At some point I'll see if I can't beat them out with Flicker or Whirling