Waystones put me out of progression/game

I am LvL 77 at tier 8 Waystones ... i died only 2 times (lost stones!) during that progression, have multiple towers with overlapping buffs, atlas active and run in general maps with over 120% waystone buff - but i just can`t find waystones anymore. Even in +1 maps with rare pack size increased and 160% waystone buff.

The drama started at about tier 5/6 where i noticed a significant lack of waytones in runs. All i find, if i am lucky enough to find a waystone in general now, are lower tier ones. So i upgraded all low tier stones to keep somehow my progression and now i am out of waystones. I did not find a single tier 7/8 or higher waystone in the last 5 maps.

I run a tier 8 map and i drop ONE tier 3 Waystone after 7 elite monster packs and 160% waystone buff - what is going on?

The progression from tier 1-4 was somehow fluid. Now simply impossible.
How i am supposed to continue the game now without maps?

The vendor only offer tier 1 maps?
Why can`t we buy maps with the same tier as our progression?

I don`t understand how this makes sense at all.

This system tells me that i am out of the game because i didn't have waystones to keep progress or even play the game at all - insane!

up!

Watch Kripps video on sustaining maps, but be warned, it's an annoying grind, gets you to T15, sure, but it's still a pain in the ass sustaining them. Have fun until you run out of T15's again. xD

This is half the reason I stopped playing poe1. THe endgame stops feeding you endgame. Ok, not gonna play anymore.

Thankfully it hasnt happened to me yet. Im sustaining nicely.

But this endgame, at its core with map item drops (waystones) is vulnerable to the same problem as poe1.

You can upgrade waystones 3 to 1 for a higher tier at the reforging bench.

More modifiers on a waystone also add more chance to drop waystones. -> corrupting them and getting 8 mods gives the most.
Bosses also have a higher chance to drop them, and often are a tier higher; or even more depending on where you placed your atlas passive points.

Doryani also sells waystones and his stock seem to renew when you level up. -> higher level = higher lvl waystones.

Regardless of the above I do agree the drop rate is to low. Upgrading the lower tiers that drop has helped me to some extent but nowhere near enough for a smooth endgame at high tier maps/waystones.

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I honestly feel like someone turned off the waystone drops around 10pm PST 12/18.

Past two days they were dropping just fine in T1 through T3.

Since last night I'm not getting squat. In 6 tier-4 maps (leaving less than ~4 mobs alive, usually zero), I got 1x tier-1, 1x tier-3, and 1x tier-7 from a boss

I have 30% chance for waystones to be higher tier, and 20% increased quantity of waystones... in addition to using magic and even some rare waystones which had +80-120% waystone drops.

What gives?

I don't want to run no-challenge tier-1 maps to farm more keys.

When I am limited from playing an enjoyable game by the lack of key drops, it's pretty unsatisfying.

I admit that this is more of a problem because I'm no-lifing the game. If I was playing 2 maps a day, I would buy more stones from Doryani than I was using... but I"m playing 20-25 maps a day, and there are just not enough waystones.

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FutureFear#3386 wrote:

You can upgrade waystones 3 to 1 for a higher tier at the reforging bench.

More modifiers on a waystone also add more chance to drop waystones. -> corrupting them and getting 8 mods gives the most.
Bosses also have a higher chance to drop them, and often are a tier higher; or even more depending on where you placed your atlas passive points.

Doryani also sells waystones and his stock seem to renew when you level up. -> higher level = higher lvl waystones.

Regardless of the above I do agree the drop rate is to low. Upgrading the lower tiers that drop has helped me to some extent but nowhere near enough for a smooth endgame at high tier maps/waystones.

like i said "So i upgraded all low tier stones to keep somehow my progression and now i am out of waystones" - when you don't get maps from drops equal to your progression, this is the only way ... but the problem still exist, no map drops and now all my lower tiers are also gone. I just don't drop maps. It seems like my % buff on waystone & map & atlas is not working anymore ... it makes also no differnce if i run waypoints with bosses, irradiated, increased pack sizes etc. - when i drop maps they are always low tier 1/2/3 ... and extremly rare based on all that buffs. It stopped me from playing because i am out of maps, simply and insane.

And the vendor only sales tier 1 maps. On level up it is sometimes a higher tier but only one map ... this is also the problem why i can't progress further right now. If the vendor would sell maps equal to the progression, it would make more sense ... but i think something is really off witth droprates of maps in general and this system should be revised - the one death mechanic is also busted and leads even more to this problem.

Try using Regals and Alchemy on the Waystones. Sustain is much easier when you're getting 200%+ Waystone Drop chance on top of Atlas Passive and Precursor bonuses. I've been treating it like PoE 1 even though it's not required, where 1-5 I make blue, sometimes yellow. 6-10 I make Yellow, sometimes "Red" (via Vaal). Once I get to 11+ I'll be trying to Vaal as much as I can.

It's also okay sometimes to run a higher tier waystone than what's required if that's all you have.

Despite juicing, using tablets, etc., waystone drop rates are unsustainable even with 6 mods on my maps. I'm in a similar situation. They simply do not drop enough. I've done stretches of 10+ maps and have not seen a single waystone drop.

GGG - If waystones don't drop frequently enough then there is no massive amount of endgame content to do as you boasted. From my POV there isn't an endgame since RNG is so bad in this game.

Im at lvl 6 1/8. The journey was full of fun till the waystones rng god left me. Today i upgraded my remaining lesser waystones but i nearly got nothing in return that could help me.

I will stop here. I hope this will be adjusted. Just let us do the maps and have fun. The game feels so awesome. Nice maps, nice mobs, awesome controlls.

Everythings fun. But once you lose the waystone game the fun is over. You also dont get XP doing the lesser stones. The stagnation is punishement but no fun.

I dont mind hard boss fights but getting out of stones and fun is getting away from this game. If you cant progress without days of no fun theres also no desire to buy some nice cosmetics in the shop.

If you have fun and progression, beat a strong boss you are like: WoW yes!!! No ive beaten that damn creature after a good fight i want to do me some good and buy something nice.

I dont even think about this. I look at my 2 pcs of lvl 3 waystones, 1 pc lvl 5 and turn off the game.