Honor system is a fundamentaly annoying and anti-fun idea

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BonWii#4890 wrote:

I'm on HOWA, melting things with 20+ runs of relics backing me

3rd floor boss still 1 shots with 70% HR / 2000+ Honor remaining

Or maybe it's the vases you get stuck on that bolt shots don't clear

Or maybe it's a proximity bubble dude with a CROSS SCREEN FLAME SHOT

Or maybe it's 'minor' afflictions like no ES / Armour / EVA

Or maybe it's just not fucking fun.

Bootlickers.

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Its not easy when you don't have any relics equiped or random shitty ones, its not easy when you have no defenses on your gear and have no honor because of that. Its not easy when you don't want to read afflictions, use the merchant, plan your route.

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Bellatrixxe#2627 wrote:

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Its not easy when you don't have any relics equiped or random shitty ones, its not easy when you have no defenses on your gear and have no honor because of that. Its not easy when you don't want to read afflictions, use the merchant, plan your route.

This is introduced to you in Act 2. For someone who's never played PoE 1 before and has no idea what Sanctum is or how it works how tf are they supposed to have any idea wtf is happening here?

Also, first character, second act, barely any gear or resources...this is a terrible trial to ascend and begin the process of building your character.

Specifically, because you DON'T play Sanctum or the trial AT ALL like you typically play your character! This isn't a trial of how well I play my <insert class here> it's a test of how well I know how to cheese/manipulate the Sanctum mechanics and honor which is not relevant for most players for the majority of the rest of the game.

It's frustrating and it's a terrible introduction for a new player. It's also just so disjointed from the game-play leading up to it. I don't want to have to wait for the next trial because it might be easier. I want to ascend in act 2 and get some more power for my character and feel like I'm making progress. As OP clearly stated, this isn't fun as the ascendancy mechanic.
I understand there are sanctum enjoyers out there who love this and more power to you! It's a great late game content island to farm.
I vehemently feel that this mechanic doesn't belong as a gate keeping challenge this early in the game.

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Poe2WarriorMan#6401 wrote:

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Bellatrixxe#2627 wrote:

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Its not easy when you don't have any relics equiped or random shitty ones, its not easy when you have no defenses on your gear and have no honor because of that. Its not easy when you don't want to read afflictions, use the merchant, plan your route.

This is introduced to you in Act 2. For someone who's never played PoE 1 before and has no idea what Sanctum is or how it works how tf are they supposed to have any idea wtf is happening here?

Also, first character, second act, barely any gear or resources...this is a terrible trial to ascend and begin the process of building your character.

Specifically, because you DON'T play Sanctum or the trial AT ALL like you typically play your character! This isn't a trial of how well I play my <insert class here> it's a test of how well I know how to cheese/manipulate the Sanctum mechanics and honor which is not relevant for most players for the majority of the rest of the game.

It's frustrating and it's a terrible introduction for a new player. It's also just so disjointed from the game-play leading up to it. I don't want to have to wait for the next trial because it might be easier. I want to ascend in act 2 and get some more power for my character and feel like I'm making progress. As OP clearly stated, this isn't fun as the ascendancy mechanic.
I understand there are sanctum enjoyers out there who love this and more power to you! It's a great late game content island to farm.
I vehemently feel that this mechanic doesn't belong as a gate keeping challenge this early in the game.

The person you are responding to isnt referencing 1 floor sanctum lol