Trial of Sekhma and Chaos Trials are ruining Endgame

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Mugumaster#5114 wrote:

I've been playing PoE for more than 10 years. During this time I endured many shenanigans of GGG in regard to game mechanics. But this is the first time I feel like I want to quit playing.

The Trials of Sehkma and Chaos Trials were not fun in PoE 1. Almost noone played it or enjoyed it. Now we are forced to "endure" it, if we want to have a viable endgame build.

My main gripe is, that the honor system is way too punishing in later levels (where you need to survive multiple runs after another). Specially in regard to visual clarity and the dodge mechanic. My build requires me to cast firewall and other spells all over the arena, while my minions run around and have their own visual effects. In the end, there is basically no visual clarity as to which projectile belongs to the boss and which one are mine. I also can't see any visual notification for incoming attacks on the ground anymore.

The same applies to the chaos trials. Those are just more random RNG in regards to survivability. I can have an "easy" run if I am lucky enough to get the less punishing modifiers. Or I can end up with modifiers that clutter the arena with even more effects - which I CANNOT SEE BECAUSE OF ALL THE SKILL EFFECTS.

I am most of the time just running blind and praying to RNG-Jesus to not get hit by anything I cannot see.

This is neither an engaging mechanic, nor is it fun in any way.

If all endgame builds are gated behind those two "takeshi's castle" suicide runs, then I probably will stop playing PoE all together. I cannot imagine having to do this for every character I want to level up - over and over again.

PS: Having to farm for the tokens to even be allowed to try a run is also a very discouraging mechanic. It feels like GGG is actively trying to not respect my time as a player and wants to see me suffer.

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

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Mugumaster#5114 wrote:

I've been playing PoE for more than 10 years. During this time I endured many shenanigans of GGG in regard to game mechanics. But this is the first time I feel like I want to quit playing.

The Trials of Sehkma and Chaos Trials were not fun in PoE 1. Almost noone played it or enjoyed it. Now we are forced to "endure" it, if we want to have a viable endgame build.

My main gripe is, that the honor system is way too punishing in later levels (where you need to survive multiple runs after another). Specially in regard to visual clarity and the dodge mechanic. My build requires me to cast firewall and other spells all over the arena, while my minions run around and have their own visual effects. In the end, there is basically no visual clarity as to which projectile belongs to the boss and which one are mine. I also can't see any visual notification for incoming attacks on the ground anymore.

The same applies to the chaos trials. Those are just more random RNG in regards to survivability. I can have an "easy" run if I am lucky enough to get the less punishing modifiers. Or I can end up with modifiers that clutter the arena with even more effects - which I CANNOT SEE BECAUSE OF ALL THE SKILL EFFECTS.

I am most of the time just running blind and praying to RNG-Jesus to not get hit by anything I cannot see.

This is neither an engaging mechanic, nor is it fun in any way.

If all endgame builds are gated behind those two "takeshi's castle" suicide runs, then I probably will stop playing PoE all together. I cannot imagine having to do this for every character I want to level up - over and over again.

PS: Having to farm for the tokens to even be allowed to try a run is also a very discouraging mechanic. It feels like GGG is actively trying to not respect my time as a player and wants to see me suffer.

Children, just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean no one does.

Sanctum had decent player retention, people didn't hate it (perhaps you are confusing it for Kalandra). Sanctum is heavily run since it's return to POE1.

Ultimatum was also a decent retention league. It was asked to return by a decent chunk of the player base (personally I'm not a huge fan of it).

https://poedb.tw/us/League#ConcurrentPlayers

You don't like it, and that's fine. I don't like lab in POE1, but I do it at least once a character because I have to do it if I want to ascend.