Buff waystone drops????

I progressed through the atlas map quests from T1 to T15, always managing to find at least one waystone of the same or higher tier to continue progressing.
So now that I finally got all 30 passives for the atlas map, focusing on buffing waystone drops/rarity so that I can maintain Tier 14-15 maps, I find myself actually going backwards.
I'm not finding waystones to maintain or progress, and am having to buy T15 waystones for 3x Exalted orbs each just to keep playing at that level.
I am also reforging lower tier waystones but that is not enough. Am currently down to T11 waystones.

So maybe we can get a buff? Or did you guys shadow nerf the drops today?

well I have similar troubles I had literally no 2-tier waystones for a day so I asked friends and got unstuck. After that I took waystone notables in atls tree (20% Quantity, 100% Rarity, 20% to be a tier higher). And it was okay until 8-tier maps. 2 deaths to dangerous mods and I found myself in a situation I have no 8-tier maps and no 7-tier maps. Only four 6-tier.
Boss maps sustains maps pretty well but I don't know about "each fourth map have a boss" (Jonathan said in reveal) in my atlas it's more like each eights map have a boss.

UPD: just completed two 6-tier maps 1 had 2 rares and no waystones were dropped and the second one was with 7 rares and a boss - 2 3-tier WS's and 2 6-tier. So I sustained my four 6-tier waystones. Sounds great)
UPD2: started to made each map rare (and from previous edit had only 1 death) but still I'm struggling with 8-tier map quest. I got only 2 of 3 needed 8-tiers in about 5 hours of mapping. I understand what I'm obviously very unlucky but...

Having all points in buffing waystone drop and increase rares,pack...and still no sustain,worst is when you finally get a drop you get like 10 tier lower waystone.How on earth is this fine with GGG....

+1 is unsustainable

Concrete example: rare tier 7 map with some precursor tablet buff had "228% waystone found in area" also 20% waystone quantity, 30% (20 + 10) chance to be tier higher, 100% waystones rarity
1 6-tier map
1 5-tier map
1 1-tier map

4 monsters remaining btw and even did one blue strong box (with one magic item and 2 augments inside)

You can say it's only one map you just unlucky. But I was stuck on tier 1 maps for at least 5 hours (with 2 deaths if I remember correctly).
And now I'm stuck on tier 6-7 maps praying for last tier 8. 8-tier map starvation started after completing 4 8-tier maps for I'm not sure mb 8-10 hours. Well my merc is almost 81 with monster level 70-72.

+1

I see a few ways they can improve this:

- Increase waystone drops generally
- Have at least one random rare monster guarantee drop a waystone that's of the current map tier or one higher. Maybe make the number of guarantees scale with the number of rare monsters in the map
- Have Doryani sell higher tier maps (the highest I've seen him sell are T5s) and make his shop refresh every 3-5 map completions

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buenodor765#4091 wrote:

+1

I see a few ways they can improve this:

- Increase waystone drops generally
- Have at least one random rare monster guarantee drop a waystone that's of the current map tier or one higher. Maybe make the number of guarantees scale with the number of rare monsters in the map
- Have Doryani sell higher tier maps (the highest I've seen him sell are T5s) and make his shop refresh every 3-5 map completions

I wish Doryani only offered the current map lvl your are at and below but had unlimited supply.(they already have a gold cost) Buying higher tier maps is wierd when you can reforge them.

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buenodor765#4091 wrote:

+1

I see a few ways they can improve this:

- Increase waystone drops generally
- Have at least one random rare monster guarantee drop a waystone that's of the current map tier or one higher. Maybe make the number of guarantees scale with the number of rare monsters in the map
- Have Doryani sell higher tier maps (the highest I've seen him sell are T5s) and make his shop refresh every 3-5 map completions

Last option sounds great actually.

+1 - The droprates for waystones are really low, even with Atlas points spent on quantity for ws drops. I even reached the point where i had no ws at all besides the lvl1 from Doryani.

I would also suggest adding white waystones of the current quest level to Doryani's shop for gold. This would solve the whole problem, and I don't see a real negative. But it would prevent us from being forced to farm lower level maps in the hope that there a ws drops, that is higher than the map level.

Agree something needs to be done here.

Level 84 have had one Tier 13 stone drop and only a handful of 12s. Most of my Tier 10+ waystone maps have dropped tier 7 or under. Got multiple Tier 2-4 in a Tier 12. Consistently run tier 6-8 because that's all that drops including using reforge to upgrade.

Have the Tier upgrade atlas points, have +38% to drop waystone through tower upgrades. pretty much spinning my wheels because all I see, if I see any, are lower level map drops.

Tier 12s shouldn't be dropping tier 1-6. Doryani sells Tiers 1. 2 3 and 5.

Pretty much at standstill because I tire of running low level maps for little to no return and all that drops for me are low level maps. Either I'm super super unlucky with the RNG or something needs to change.

I run a T8 I get T6 or lower. Run the odd T12 get T1-6 assuming any waystone drops at all even with 200+% waystone drop chance.

Super frustrating. Not trial levels of frustrating that make me rather go the dentist, but frustrating enough that I don't want to do grind for nothing anymore. No xp worth noting, no waystone progression, uniques are all crap with level 16 requirements etc etc

I enjoy the game concept overall. it's much better than the last couple loads of crap Blizzard has put out with the Diablo label, but needs a lot of work on progression and itemization.