THE TRADE SYSTEM SUCKS.

This trade system doesn’t work. I just wasted 2 hours because the people I sent a direct whisper to didn’t reply. An auction house would be much faster and more convenient.

They Need to just get rid of direct trade COMPLETLEY. IT NEEDS TO DISAAPEAR. They already have the set up to travel to hideout. It should be given at the start of the game for every player. To many people don't answer. and the other jerks just post numbers so they can sell for real money.

END DIRECT TRADE FOREVER!!!!!!!

The trade works just fine.

It's gone anyway next league. But be careful if you can't craft fast or rush the campaign. All your items will be much less worth because the market will be flooded with mid tier items immediately

Trade works just fine. The expectation that every item you see on trade is available for immediate purchase is your problem, not the trade system.

Chill out, whisper someone else. Or better yet, maybe just follow up your automated trade whisper with a short question, like "Hey, are you busy? Just hit me up when you are done"

People don't answer for a variety of reasons.

1. They arent at their PC, shit happens (literally sometimes)

2. They are mapping/busy and don't want to stop for a low value trade (will likely be happy to sell to you after map)

3. It is an item with a lot of listings and they are tired of answering just to have the person drop because they spammed 15 people at once for the item (a personal message would fix this as well)

4. They are using you to price check (get over it)

This isnt Walmart, its POE, and everyone here is trying to play their game on limited time. Seek empathy and you'll have a better experience.

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

...This isnt Walmart, its POE, and everyone here is trying to play their game on limited time. Seek empathy and you'll have a better experience.

Agreed, this is a good point!

Eliminating trade would definitely make PoE1 gameplay experience superior.

Trade is intentionally horrible, they want to make it frustrating and annoying to limit its use.

Which sounds like terrible, short-sighted thinking to me, but yes, they know its bad, its supposed to be bad.

I would love no-trade balanced gameplay, or make trade functional like the currency trader and balance around that (there would be more item availability).

They picked the worst of all worlds and made trade, but discouraged people using it by making it worse than filing taxes.

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trixxar#2360 wrote:

Trade is intentionally horrible, they want to make it frustrating and annoying to limit its use.

Which sounds like terrible, short-sighted thinking to me, but yes, they know its bad, its supposed to be bad.

I would love no-trade balanced gameplay, or make trade functional like the currency trader and balance around that (there would be more item availability).

They picked the worst of all worlds and made trade, but discouraged people using it by making it worse than filing taxes.

the original intent was that if trade was bad, players would rather farm more than actually engage in trade.

which actually is good. unfortunately the game's drop rates is balanced around trade and players no lifing this game. besides harvest league, never have i actually felt the urge to craft anything myself.

also i do feel that its really against the players best interest that trade was made bad. scams happen because of our old trade system. fake listings can happen because automated trades are not implemented.

ggg's stance on getting scammed? youre a big boy, dont get scammed! fuck. i really resent that ggg really doesnt give a flying fuck about players getting scammed. we always see people posting about being scammed on reddit/forums etc its not new. and ggg is OK with it.

also price manipulation. most people dont know how much an item is worth. if they check the trade site and see 20 listings of the item which are undervalued, of course they might get the idea the item is supposed to be worth that much. and when they sell at that price, it gets bought out almost immediately. only later do they realize they got a bad deal.

but we all "love" poe so much we play the game even tho GGG is happy to let such things happen to their players.

Last Epoch has shown that solo players and traders can exist together in the same world.

PoE takes heavy inspiration from D2 and GGG devsfelt that many features of D2 (including trading, scrolls, inventory tetris etc.) were perfection.

There is speculation that auction house style instant buyout for items might be introduced in PoE1.

No idea how AH is working out in PoE2 but it can be an indicator if this will be good/bad.