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And some primitive still considers he is smart enough to say that they are wrong.... But not smart enough to pass through act 1, created by those same developers.
Think about it, if you are able at all.
This guy has an account created in 2013 with a single level 92 character, and has never bought any packs.
And he feels legitimate to give lessons and ask those who don't share his opinion to leave and play another game, even though these people have been playing the game for 10 years and have contributed to the development of studio GGG and have finacially supported the creation of PoE2...
Don't waste your time talking to these people, they'll be out of the game in a month or two.
You can hide supporter packs. He also plays each league you can tell from his challenges. He just deletes his character when he's done.
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Posted byyamface#1022on Dec 11, 2024, 8:20:51 AM
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And some primitive still considers he is smart enough to say that they are wrong.... But not smart enough to pass through act 1, created by those same developers.
Think about it, if you are able at all.
This guy has an account created in 2013 with a single level 92 character, and has never bought any packs.
And he feels legitimate to give lessons and ask those who don't share his opinion to leave and play another game, even though these people have been playing the game for 10 years and have contributed to the development of studio GGG and have finacially supported the creation of PoE2...
Don't waste your time talking to these people, they'll be out of the game in a month or two.
That doesn't make his view or post any less valid. What is with this elitest attitude some of y'all have? It's so weird to have that kind of mindset.
maybe you misunderstood me, maybe I misspoke...
some people have greatly contributed to financing the development of this game and are frustrated (even feel betrayed) when they see the gameplay offered to them in PoE 2. they are entitled to express their disagreement without being asked to leave the game and go play something else...
and yes, it's really sad not to be able to express your opinion without people who don't share your point of view turning against you. Reread my message, at no point did I disagree with what he thinks of the game and clearly I don't care. It's his attitude that I have a problem with.
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Posted byTalamor1#0630on Dec 11, 2024, 8:32:01 AM
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This game reminds me of the D2 days where if you keep dying from a boss or a hard area you have to slow down, rethink your build, change equipments or find new equipments in other area, or even make a new character from start since there were no skill refunds. There were no "rush to endgame" because the campaign is all there is, it just gets harder.
Just finished the campaign and I love this game so far, and if my build can't make it through the harder endgame content after campaign then it's time to rebuild or make a new character.
I just wish they make crafting materials easier to get in the campaign and crafting a bit more targetable so we can actually "cook" better if we hit a wall. Also maybe they can make the movespeed a bit faster by default or give the boots intrinsic movespeed bonus (maybe based on defence type/stat requirement like the evasion boots faster than the armor boots) since at this time boots without movespeed are mostly useless in the huge maps
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And some primitive still considers he is smart enough to say that they are wrong.... But not smart enough to pass through act 1, created by those same developers.
Think about it, if you are able at all.
This guy has an account created in 2013 with a single level 92 character, and has never bought any packs.
And he feels legitimate to give lessons and ask those who don't share his opinion to leave and play another game, even though these people have been playing the game for 10 years and have contributed to the development of studio GGG and have finacially supported the creation of PoE2...
Don't waste your time talking to these people, they'll be out of the game in a month or two.
You can hide supporter packs. He also plays each league you can tell from his challenges. He just deletes his character when he's done.
Maybe it is, maybe it's not.neither you nor I can know.
Either he didn't contribute financially, or he did. Either way, it doesn't give him the right to ask others to leave the game if they don't like it. Especially if these people have contributed to the development of the game and are expressing frustration. It's early access, everyone should have their say and be able to express their feelings.
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Posted byTalamor1#0630on Dec 11, 2024, 8:38:19 AM
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But the amount of whining leaves the impression that this is the final product. I'm all for constructive discussion, but how are you going to have it when the claims and comparisons are hyperbolical?
Some examples. People that haven't played dark souls compare it TO dark souls (just because there is dodge roll in the game). People that didn't play d4 say it's inspired by d4 and it's popular to say d4bad so nobody argues with it.
Where is the space for constructivity?
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Posted byAlvinL_#4492on Dec 11, 2024, 8:44:18 AM
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But the amount of whining leaves the impression that this is the final product. I'm all for constructive discussion, but how are you going to have it when the claims and comparisons are hyperbolical?
Some examples. People that haven't played dark souls compare it TO dark souls (just because there is dodge roll in the game). People that didn't play d4 say it's inspired by d4 and it's popular to say d4bad so nobody argues with it.
Where is the space for constructivity?
People compare it to dark souls because the devs, themselves did.
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Posted byNothv13#0740on Dec 11, 2024, 9:02:59 AM
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It's funny to watch people defend a game that doesn't give them a sane reward for the effort they put in, it feels like if you take away almost all the loot they'll keep screaming how awesome it is, it's insane.
It's even funnier watching people get all weird about others defending a game they are really enjoying. POE2 has been great for me.
I have to ask, why are you defending it? Are you afraid that other people not enjoying it in the way that you do will take away your enjoyment of it? Is them not being satisfied with the product against some unspoken rule? Is there a reason so many people here champion getting less of everything like they are some sort of monks in training, trying to adhere to a vow of poverty?
If PoE 2 has been great for you, no notes, brother, get off the forums and go play the game. Antagonizing people trying to give feedback in a feedback thread because it conflicts with your 'enjoyment' of a product seems like a sign of mental illness.
Great solution. Let the crybabies flood the forum and just NEVER commentate, if u have differing thoughts. Or even are "afraid" they will dumb the game down, simply because of this negative feedback.
OF COURSE people want to give positive feedback too in this scenario. Because they want the "Big big problem" to stay.
What you say is the equivalent of "just play poe 1" - While this statement still holds better. Maybe because, like, the devs stated their vision for the game.
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Posted byRikkarta#4397on Dec 11, 2024, 9:59:38 AM
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the difficulty gap from poe1 to poe2 is ridiculous i'm sorry it just is !
i do hope they will implement difficulty choices in the future
It really isn't.
POE1 starting Acts were buffed to be quite hard because you're still earning currency/gear.
POE2 Act 1 can be rough depending on your build. Some things need tweaking like cheaper vendor prices because the gold income to cost is the worst of all Acts/level brackets.
But then end of A2, A3 and definitely A4+ you are back to your 2 button stompfest like POE1.
It's not harder at all, you'll have tabs filled with so many sup/skill gems, rares, currency, hundreds of thousands of gold and you're not even @ maps. You just have to give it more than a few hours.
1-2 days at most, that's not much to ask to set yourself up.
Then also alts because easy street because you already have uncuts gems ready, all the gold to buy vendor items from the very starts etc.
The only hard part about POE2 is if you go SSF HC, or just HC in general. Harder as in it will take you longer to get that initial gold/item/currency stockpile because you will need to farm more at lower maps/areas that give less yield to be extra safe.
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Posted bypoeGT#1333on Dec 11, 2024, 10:22:55 AM
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the difficulty gap from poe1 to poe2 is ridiculous i'm sorry it just is !
i do hope they will implement difficulty choices in the future
It really isn't.
POE1 starting Acts were buffed to be quite hard because you're still earning currency/gear.
POE2 Act 1 can be rough depending on your build. Some things need tweaking like cheaper vendor prices because the gold income to cost is the worst of all Acts/level brackets.
But then end of A2, A3 and definitely A4+ you are back to your 2 button stompfest like POE1.
It's not harder at all, you'll have tabs filled with so many sup/skill gems, rares, currency, hundreds of thousands of gold and you're not even @ maps. You just have to give it more than a few hours.
1-2 days at most, that's not much to ask to set yourself up.
Then also alts because easy street because you already have uncuts gems ready, all the gold to buy vendor items from the very starts etc.
The only hard part about POE2 is if you go SSF HC, or just HC in general. Harder as in it will take you longer to get that initial gold/item/currency stockpile because you will need to farm more at lower maps/areas that give less yield to be extra safe.
POE1 act 1 is not hard at all. It drops enough gear and good enough gear and the bosses and mobs are easy enough there is little issue
POE2 act 1 is entirely dependent on your gear, not really build since most builds don't even come online till late act 1, or act 2 (and later). Since it is so reliant on gear you can either have a cake walk or a lesson in suffering all due to something entirely out of your control as a player. 1-2 days is an eternity for a game in the modern age to hook someone enough to get start getting enjoyment out of it. I don't like the zoom playstyle and actively don't zoom in POE1, but man is POE2 a slog in the beginning if you don't get gear. This doesn't even touch on the league resets and having to run through it all again.
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Posted byNothv13#0740on Dec 11, 2024, 10:57:30 AM
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For me this game has been awesome because it takes me back to a time how games used to be before games became overly simplified.
This +1
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Posted bysamdelmolino1#7603on Dec 11, 2024, 11:04:50 AM
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