Doubt about Far Shot ascendancy

Hi, I currently don't understand exactly how the new node Far Shot will function since it says in the patch notes that it will no longer provide "far shot", but more damage with distance instead. Does that mean if I gain "far shot" from other sources it will become cumulative with the node and up it to 90% more damage, or will only the higher value prevail?

Looks like far shot gave max 60% more where the new is 30%. Ouch.

And yes they should stack as they are now different.

Sounds to me like it will stack now if the wording changes.

Just looking at another post about this, in the recent POB update the deadeye ascendancy is still called Far shot, without the key word Far shot. Question has been asked if Far shot now has changed values and encompasses barrage. If not, would be confusing to have it as an ascendancy name and a separate keyword, and have both acting differently?

I guess this is sort of how it worked before, but it made more sense when the keyword was on the ascendancy itself.

I guess
1. Far Shot doesn't have penalty on closed range anymore.
2. Far Shot now provide 0-30% more damage and Barrages have no spread.
3. Far Shot from others source like unique items will refer to Deadeye's Far Shot So when you play Scion and you have Far Shot, you'll end up on dealing 0-30% more damage and your projectile barrages no spread anymore.

btw we need GGG to clearify this.


if far shot still being a keyword which give up to 60% more damage and can stack with ascendancy.
so It would be from 60% more damage to 108% more damage.
this is crazy and too OP.
IMHO it's impossible LOL

ps. I created duplicated post and will discuss here instead.

Previously Far Shot is a keyword which refer to a mechanic which make your projectile can deal more or less damage depends on travel distance.

Keyword is a keyword, keyword can refer to any mechanic or anything.
Keyword never refer to ascendancy skill before but it still have possibility.

there're 2 scenario can happen

== Scenario A ==
Far Shot keyword unchanged
With double far shot, this will make deadeye can deal up to 108% more damage (almost double value) .
this is insane and might be a huge buff on some build.

== Scenario B ==
Far Shot is a keyword which refer to Far Shot Ascendancy skill
this is a nerf to deadeye.
But allow others class can managed to have "projectile barrages have no spread"


btw I just update POB and seem you can do double far shot in POB to deal 108% more damage on 70+ distance.
but sometimes POB calculate things incorrectly.
I want answer from GGG instead xD

It might be a bit strange for Far shot uniques to have barrage has no spread when they didn't before. That's part of why I think it probably doesn't work like that. the ascendancy was named Far shot before, even though it wasn't a key word, just so happened to have the Far shot keyword on the ascendancy as well.

I think it would make sense to just have the ascendancy have a different name. Instruments of virtue isn't called Battlemage, that would be confusing.

Going off the wiki, it's an original monster mod from 1.0.0, then added as an ascendency in 2.2.0, then the keyword was added in 3.0.0. Both keyword and ascendancy have had changes to how they function along the way.

However it functions, in the next league I don't see much reason for them to have the same name, particularly if the keyword is not remaining on the ascendancy.

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Belegur85 wrote:

It might be a bit strange for Far shot uniques to have barrage has no spread when they didn't before. That's part of why I think it probably doesn't work like that. the ascendancy was named Far shot before, even though it wasn't a key word, just so happened to have the Far shot keyword on the ascendancy as well.

I think it would make sense to just have the ascendancy have a different name. Instruments of virtue isn't called Battlemage, that would be confusing.

Going off the wiki, it's an original monster mod from 1.0.0, then added as an ascendency in 2.2.0, then the keyword was added in 3.0.0. Both keyword and ascendancy have had changes to how they function along the way.

However it functions, in the next league I don't see much reason for them to have the same name, particularly if the keyword is not remaining on the ascendancy.

Yeah
It would be better if they rename Far Shot ascendancy to something else if it stackable.

And If far shot keyword can stack with far shot ascendancy.
We need a chart of distance to output damage of
1. Point Blank Only
2. Far Shot Keyword Only
3. Far Shot ascendancy Only
4. Point Blank + Far Shot Keyword
5. POint Blank + Far Shot Ascenancy
6. Far SHot Keyword + Far Shot ascendancy
7. Point Blank + Far Shot Keyword + Far Shot Ascendancy.

To see which one is the best fit for your build.
This would be a complex chart LOL

btw I already made a chart for this
after I get answer from GGG I'll update it

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/epli5ufq8m

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https://www.desmos.com/calculator/epli5ufq8m

Nice one. Is it possible to add a label on the equations? sue I can figure out which is which, but I'm lazy.