May I ask you some questions about "spell"

First of all, let me apologize. My English is very poor and I can only rely on translation tools

Arcane Potency is a notable passive skill：
+30% to Critical Strike Multiplier for Spell Damage
30% increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells

1、What is the difference between "for Spells" and "for Spell Damage" ？
2、 "for Spells" specifically referring to "Spell Skills", "Spell Damage", or other ？
3、If "for Spells" == "for Spell Damage"，Why is "Critical Strike Chance for Spells" not "Critical Strike Chance for Spells Damage"

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fallenstar1995 wrote:

First of all, let me apologize. My English is very poor and I can only rely on translation tools

Arcane Potency is a notable passive skill：
+30% to Critical Strike Multiplier for Spell Damage
30% increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells

1、What is the difference between "for Spells" and "for Spell Damage" ？
2、 "for Spells" specifically referring to "Spell Skills", "Spell Damage", or other ？
3、If "for Spells" == "for Spell Damage"，Why is "Critical Strike Chance for Spells" not "Critical Strike Chance for Spells Damage"

The second one tells you HOW OFTEN spells will get a crit strike. If they would normally crit 50% of the time, they will now crit 80% of the time.

The first one tells you HOW MUCH damage those crit strikes will do. If before this they would do +100% damage when critting, they will now do +130% damage when critting.

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inisfree1952 wrote:

The second one tells you HOW OFTEN spells will get a crit strike. If they would normally crit 50% of the time, they will now crit 80% of the time.

This is not how it works :)


Crit chance always refers to either the weapons crit chance for attack based builds or the spells base crit chance as shown in the gems description.

Most spells base crit chance is 5-6%. So if you added 100% increased crit chance to a spell with 5% base crit, you´d get another 5% for a total of 10% crit chance.

I think the actual question was the wording. Which in this case the difference in wording means nothing.

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fallenstar1995 wrote:

First of all, let me apologize. My English is very poor and I can only rely on translation tools

Arcane Potency is a notable passive skill：
+30% to Critical Strike Multiplier for Spell Damage
30% increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells

1、What is the difference between "for Spells" and "for Spell Damage" ？
2、 "for Spells" specifically referring to "Spell Skills", "Spell Damage", or other ？
3、If "for Spells" == "for Spell Damage"，Why is "Critical Strike Chance for Spells" not "Critical Strike Chance for Spells Damage"

Crit Chance for spells is not the same as crit multiplier for DMG.

https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Critical_strike

In both cases its "for spells" because spells are separate form from any other type of skills. But depending on what buff exackly it is given words before "for spells" will be different.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

The first stat on that notable is incorrectly described, it should say "increased Spell Critical Strike Chance" ("Spell Critical Strike Chance" is the crit chance of Spell Damage, specifically).

I have fixed that and a couple of other incorrect spell crit chance descriptions, hopefully for 3.25.

In general "Critical Strike Chance for Spells" should apply to any crit chance of a spell (including spells dealing secondary damage rather than spell damage, such as Herald of Thunder), while "Spell Critical Strike Chance" applies specifically to spell damage. This particular description (and two others I found) were incorrect for their functionality.

I've made a note to check consistency of crit multi descriptions when there is time.

Thank you for your reply
" Adds x to x lightning Damage to Spells " should also need to be corrected ？
" to Spells " → " to Sepll Damage " ?

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Mark_GGG wrote:

The first stat on that notable is incorrectly described, it should say "increased Spell Critical Strike Chance" ("Spell Critical Strike Chance" is the crit chance of Spell Damage, specifically).

I have fixed that and a couple of other incorrect spell crit chance descriptions, hopefully for 3.25.

In general "Critical Strike Chance for Spells" should apply to any crit chance of a spell (including spells dealing secondary damage rather than spell damage, such as Herald of Thunder), while "Spell Critical Strike Chance" applies specifically to spell damage. This particular description (and two others I found) were incorrect for their functionality.

I've made a note to check consistency of crit multi descriptions when there is time.

One more question
Herald of Thunder：
"The damage inflicted by this skill is not affected by modifiers to spell damage"

Does "modifiers to spell damage" here only "increase spell damage" or does it include "spell critical strike chance"、 "spell critical strike multiplier " and "spell add damage" ？

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Mark_GGG wrote:

The first stat on that notable is incorrectly described, it should say "increased Spell Critical Strike Chance" ("Spell Critical Strike Chance" is the crit chance of Spell Damage, specifically).

I have fixed that and a couple of other incorrect spell crit chance descriptions, hopefully for 3.25.

In general "Critical Strike Chance for Spells" should apply to any crit chance of a spell (including spells dealing secondary damage rather than spell damage, such as Herald of Thunder), while "Spell Critical Strike Chance" applies specifically to spell damage. This particular description (and two others I found) were incorrect for their functionality.

I've made a note to check consistency of crit multi descriptions when there is time.

Sorry for using machine translation and not being polite enough
This answer shocked me
Critical strike or not
It takes effect before damage occurs, even before the projectile
So WIKI and any player should try to avoid linking it to damage as much as possible
Because this is unreasonable

The person who was insulted gave an example
critical strike
He was very confident that Mark wouldn't say it was due to the damage taking effect
In the game, descriptions even avoid associating critical hits with "hit"
Because how could this be reasonable???
This example convinced almost everyone
[Removed By Support]

Even if the description is incorrect
He shouldn't be insulted either

The person being scolded keeps trying to explain that not everything applies to "damage" and "skill"
Because it's unreasonable
Therefore, he suffered from online violence
I originally wanted to help, but I messed it up
Now he has compiled a lot of evidence himself to get rid of this matter
But now “mark said”
I told him about this matter
He comforted me and said he didn't care
But I still feel terrible
Everything in the game is proving him right. Why????

I don't think this is a misunderstanding
For example, melee attacks can even cause projectile damage through melee attacks
This should not be related to damage
This game should have a more reasonable explanation than "skills" or "damage"
Because this logic doesn't make sense

What are the drawbacks of "attack"/"attack skills"
I think that's how games work
Why must it be explained as "damage"
Many things have become unreasonable
Words lose their meaning

I'm sorry
I'm not polite enough
My question resulted in a person being unfairly treated on social media
I am working hard to salvage it
I think there must be something wrong with this


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Mark_GGG wrote:

The first stat on that notable is incorrectly described, it should say "increased Spell Critical Strike Chance" ("Spell Critical Strike Chance" is the crit chance of Spell Damage, specifically).

I have fixed that and a couple of other incorrect spell crit chance descriptions, hopefully for 3.25.

In general "Critical Strike Chance for Spells" should apply to any crit chance of a spell (including spells dealing secondary damage rather than spell damage, such as Herald of Thunder), while "Spell Critical Strike Chance" applies specifically to spell damage. This particular description (and two others I found) were incorrect for their functionality.

I've made a note to check consistency of crit multi descriptions when there is time.

I have a friend who said: there is something called "spell" that is neither a spell skill nor a spell damage. Is this correct.
Is there another thing called "spell" in the game