Scarabs overhaul, good change, BUT...

The good:
Scarabs being world drop is pretty neat for the avg player, even though sextants were better in almost every way.

The bad:
Betrayal getting gutted for absolutely no reason. Removing sextants means virtually minus 4 map slots.

The ugly truth:
Back to Betrayal. I'm not sure why Betrayal got so much hate this league. There little to no reason to do Syndicate anymore besides spam Catarina for a 10% to get a veiled orb. Everyone ignores most of the members since they give crappy loot even when the area lvl is 83.

Solution for the ugly truth:
Since scarabs are currently be-all and end-all, let the Betrayal farmers target farm the rare scarabs like they used to last leagues. But add level area brackets to the loot pool.
[68-73] - common scarabs only;
[74-80] - middle of the pack rarity wise scarabs only;
[81-83] - rare scarabs only; (not the horned, of course, but everything before that)

It's very sad to do a lvl 83 Catarina, get no loot from her and then all my rank 3 intervention members drop crappy "rusted" common 1c scarabs.
This needs to be adjusted. Every league is giving you more and more the more you invest in it. Besides Betrayal.
Of course some people will not agree with anything of what I said and that is fain. We all have our own opinions on this matter.

It's definitely weird that the best way to get scarabs isn't syndicate anymore, since they were always the special reward of the betrayal mechanic.

I think I'd prefer for common scarabs to be universal drops and every other kind of scarab only come from syndicate safe houses and bargains.

Yeah. Like most people i'm completly fine with them being available in maps. I just want to have a guaranteed way of finding the rare ones via Syndicate. Which is taking time and effort. Even more so now that Catarina doesn't benefit from +% intel like she used to. It takes quite a lot of time to spawn her.

My personal hate - betrayl was the source of stable currency for me. Not only Aisling meta craft,but also vorici white sockets and some other crafts. Right now both are dead.Its not worth to farm permanently like it was.

Before:
Like at the start of the league i was getting profit from selling crafts and selling expensive catarina items cause i force the betrayal during the atlas tree. After 2-3 weeks when items become cheap - i always could sell Aisling/Vorici. Its not the XXX profit or "lets farm HH/MB per 1 day", no, it was a STABLE way to farm some currency for slow progression of the build.

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Berzal wrote:

My personal hate - betrayl was the source of stable currency for me. Not only Aisling meta craft,but also vorici white sockets and some other crafts. Right now both are dead.Its not worth to farm permanently like it was.

Before:
Like at the start of the league i was getting profit from selling crafts and selling expensive catarina items cause i force the betrayal during the atlas tree. After 2-3 weeks when items become cheap - i always could sell Aisling/Vorici. Its not the XXX profit or "lets farm HH/MB per 1 day", no, it was a STABLE way to farm some currency for slow progression of the build.

Same. You knew that if everything went to sh!t at least Syndicate was a stable source. Not anymore. I doubt they will adress this anytime soon, but hopefully next league we'll see some B I G changes here.

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Berzal wrote:

My personal hate - betrayl was the source of stable currency for me. Not only Aisling meta craft,but also vorici white sockets and some other crafts. Right now both are dead.Its not worth to farm permanently like it was.

Before:
Like at the start of the league i was getting profit from selling crafts and selling expensive catarina items cause i force the betrayal during the atlas tree. After 2-3 weeks when items become cheap - i always could sell Aisling/Vorici. Its not the XXX profit or "lets farm HH/MB per 1 day", no, it was a STABLE way to farm some currency for slow progression of the build.

I can sorta agree, but at the same time, the inconvenience behind having to build up trust and stream on TFT just to sell bench crafts is why I never bothered farming Betrayal for profit.

All I wanted GGG to do was make it so we can itemize Aisling's bench craft, keeping the process of farming her the same, so we can just sell it like any normal thing. Instead GGG gutted the whole process and added yet another inconvenience tying that itemized craft to wiping the whole board.

GGG, stop trying to incentivize me into killing Catarina. I don't want to wipe the Syndicate board and have to build the damn thing up repeatedly. Now there's nothing worth building the board up to farm anymore, but Catarina is still tedious to farm, so why should I care about the league at all now?

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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Berzal wrote:

My personal hate - betrayl was the source of stable currency for me. Not only Aisling meta craft,but also vorici white sockets and some other crafts. Right now both are dead.Its not worth to farm permanently like it was.

Before:
Like at the start of the league i was getting profit from selling crafts and selling expensive catarina items cause i force the betrayal during the atlas tree. After 2-3 weeks when items become cheap - i always could sell Aisling/Vorici. Its not the XXX profit or "lets farm HH/MB per 1 day", no, it was a STABLE way to farm some currency for slow progression of the build.

I can sorta agree, but at the same time, the inconvenience behind having to build up trust and stream on TFT just to sell bench crafts is why I never bothered farming Betrayal for profit.

All I wanted GGG to do was make it so we can itemize Aisling's bench craft, keeping the process of farming her the same, so we can just sell it like any normal thing. Instead GGG gutted the whole process and added yet another inconvenience tying that itemized craft to wiping the whole board.

GGG, stop trying to incentivize me into killing Catarina. I don't want to wipe the Syndicate board and have to build the damn thing up repeatedly. Now there's nothing worth building the board up to farm anymore, but Catarina is still tedious to farm, so why should I care about the league at all now?

Are you kidding me? Solution is - "advanced velied orb" "advanced colloring orb" etc. with different tiers if its needed like for hillock. All crafts in betrayal could be transformed into currency and they could sell a special tab for that and ppl like me would buy that.

Why if you have pain in leg - you should always cut off the leg?May be exist other ways? And this was suggested on forum multiple times. They just dont give a...what ever.

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Berzal wrote:

My personal hate - betrayl was the source of stable currency for me. Not only Aisling meta craft,but also vorici white sockets and some other crafts. Right now both are dead.Its not worth to farm permanently like it was.

Before:
Like at the start of the league i was getting profit from selling crafts and selling expensive catarina items cause i force the betrayal during the atlas tree. After 2-3 weeks when items become cheap - i always could sell Aisling/Vorici. Its not the XXX profit or "lets farm HH/MB per 1 day", no, it was a STABLE way to farm some currency for slow progression of the build.

GGG: What's better than stable income? Random income of course.

i made so many divines from selling my sextants in bulk. now thats taken away. maven invitations cant be sold anymore either. overall the changes are bad. taking away easy money makers from the people who need it most