Question on Uber Exarchs Ball Phase & Physical Mastery Skill Tree
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Leech is limited mainly by its own 3 caps, not by damage amount. Even for small hits with leftover secondary damage types, players deal so much damage relative to their health/ES pool, and hit so often, that even minimal damage output is enough to fill your leech per second to the brim.
Only case where monster armor technically matters is instant leech in combination with low leeching damage. But player who specifically invests in advanced leech techniques would likely take care to have leech on his main damage type, be it physical or not. And for main damage type monster armor is irrelevant again. |
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" My personal experience does not match this. Edit: Forgot leech quota. Spoiler needs to be multiplied with 0.01. So basically both examples do not leech enough by far. Its actually so bad that I need to invest into getting more phys damage to be able to leech vs single target. Which would explain my personal experience I guess. Spoiler is wrong, needs to be multiplied with 0.01 as only 1% is leeched by the totem leech mastery.
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So lets try math the poison TS ballista example. Assuming build is mostly chaos from boots or body. So I get maybe X phys on bow. Guessing links TS + ballista + ballista + unbound + gmp + gv. phys hit ~= X *1.2 *0.75GMP * 0.8GV *0.8totem * 0.75totem *%dam *1.12frenzies ~= 0.48 * %dam * X #hits is maybe 10arrows * 6totems *2.5aps *0.75guess ~= 112 Depending on X and %dam you may be right for this one, at least if not using Deadly Ailments which I wouldnt if I want to leech. Next try: TR ballista: TR + ballista + ballista + withering + faster + dofl/vicious phys hit ~= X *0.8totem * 0.75totem *%dam *1.12frenzies *1.35dofl *0.4skill * 0.74skill ~= 0.27 * X * %dam #hits is maybe Y (<5, depends how much target moves) * 6totems *2.5aps *accuracy = 15 * Y *accuracy Here however against usual monster armour values you cant get full leech without overwhelm. Example: 64 Thicket bow * 0.27 * 6%dam ~= 100 dam => 10 dam vs ~15k armour So even with full hit count & full accuracy its just 15 * 5 * 10 = 750 leech per sec (Math is a bit nonsense for non-Slayer with dofl because I dont need leech on full life. But vicious gives same results. Empower would have less leech.) No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle! Last edited by Zrevnur#2026 on Oct 20, 2023, 2:59:35 PM
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I have home-brewed shitty version of TR build now, and relying on leech there is bad idea, ballista or not. Even if you slap atziri flask for 2% chaos leech. Arrow hits miss mobs, and explosion hits occur when everything is already dead.
I did forgot about another x0.01 multiplier on totem mastery, but should still work without overinvesting in leech for TS poison ballista, you score multiple hits on every mob before it is killed by poison. Idk about single target, never tried this build. However main point still stands: if leech is really important for your build, you won't leave it working from thicket bow unmodified damage :) |
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"If lots mobs are around then such builds (TR also) likely have "%life gain on kill" which applies to totem dot kills too. IME the totem mastery is much easier to get to work for dense mapping. Its the single target where its doesnt work so well. (And its also one of the most powerful mastery points on the tree for build that can fully benefit from it.) No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
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Uber Exarch will always do his ball phase when it's off cooldown, so you have to kill the additional minions before the next ball phase starts. Rough enough with the ball phase, doing the ball phase tanking 2-3 of his molten minotaurs is super rough. lol. I'd have to run it again just to confirm but I bet it's going to be the same.
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