Uber Elder Accessibility
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I propose that there be a change to the system. Any of the other 3 boss pinnacles (Maven, Searing Exarch, Eater of Worlds) have enough determinism that eventually you will reach that content automatically. Special Maven invitations can give high numbers of splinters. Searing exarch/eater of world have 28 maps.
Uber Elder though has 2 levels of rng. First you need to get shaper/elder guardian maps. It's not that bad to get, but after getting those you need to fight the shaper/elder and get the exact fragments you need. This is the part that doesn't really make sense to me. Shaper = 4 maps Elder = 4 Maps. Just running an invitation of the twisted and the formed from these 2 sets could easily get you a Maven's writ. Meanwhile for Uber Elder, the actual content you need to run 16 maps and even then if you drop the same fragment as before, you have to repeat. What I would propose is changing the design in the following way: 1) No more Shaper/Elder Fragments, there will be a writ instead for the uber elder that will be composed of 8 splinters 2) The guardians will drop 1 splinter each in addition to their base fragment 3) The Elder/Shaper will respectively drop 4 splinters I'm open to other ideas too, but this was the simplest one that came to mind. Last bumped on Dec 3, 2023, 11:39:00 AM
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+1
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+1. Easily the worst main storyline boss grind the game has to offer.
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" Elder is not main story boss anymore. Biggest compliments for my crafted items - "bs, they must have been RMT'ed"
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" Oh dw hes going to justify saying IT'S PART OF THE VOID STONE! Dys an sohm
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No need for all that. Just add a harvest craft to flip those fragments. Every other fragment thing (even Sirus's) has a fragment flip except for that one.
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If you are in SSF, a full set of frag actually need an expected value of 8.333 Guardian Map. (assuming each map has a equal chance to drop, and one map drop one frag; does not use invitation )
Also, assuming there is no harvest craft exist The "half" set of uber elder frags from either boss, you need 3 sets of Shaper / Elder each as expect value So that it is 6 sets : 6 times aforementioned 8.333 ~= 50 maps You are really good luck to have 2 sets each of Shaper/Uber Elder and from just 16 maps to access Uber Elder, which can only be done in trade league ref https://sites.google.com/view/krapstuff/coupon-collecting This is the start of forum signature: I am not a GGG employee. About the username: Did you know Kowloon Gundam is made in Neo Hong Kong? quote from the first page: "Please post one thread per issue, and check the forum for similar posts first" This is the end of forum signature Last edited by neohongkong#0222 on Oct 9, 2023, 8:54:01 AM
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I mentioned this as a problem when I came during lake after a two league break.
It is a main story boss, intended or otherwise because he drops the last atlas stone. That was my original issue with the obnoxious grind and still is. It's always the last stone I get and I go directly to the top of the atlas passive tree first so bosses will drop Shaper/Elder maps. Easiest fix would be to just change Shaper/Elder scarabs IMO. Before Winged they're at the bottom with Sulphite and Torment. For conditionally the best Boots/Shield influence doesn't seem right. "Never trust floating women." -Officer Kirac
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" Lol...come on dude. Of COURSE he is. He has his own wheel on the atlas tree and everything. ALL the atlas bosses are MAIN story bosses. Things like delve boss, expedition boss, etc. are non-main bosses. Any expansion boss is a Main Boss Just because he isn't THE main boss, doesn't mean he is any less of A main boss. Similar to how Kitava is STILL the main boss of the story. Really petty try at creating an argument. Main bosses in PoE: Sirus Maven Eater/Exarch Elder Shaper maybe Venarius (he's a bit unique) Sub-bosses: Guardians Conquerors sub-cortex bosses Tangential bosses unrelated to the main story: Delve Betrayal Expedition Trialmaster etc. Last edited by jsuslak313#7615 on Oct 9, 2023, 2:09:55 PM
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" That is my point exactly lol, it is part of the voidstone. But look at the larger picture: even Sirus only requires 4 maps to run. Searing Exarch/Eater of Worlds have more because they run off any map. and even have passives on the atlas tree to reduce required maps. At this point shaper and elder content should just be considered merged. |
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