Destructive Play Keystone

As far as I know, no one knows for sure, but just picking some brains to see how you think it will work.



I am assuming they count as being witnessed, since this would maybe make people finally not always pick alters.

I am also assuming all boss bonuses from the atlas will apply to the summoned bosses, such as guardian map drop chance.

It says "modifiers to the final boss in each map also apply to these summoned bosses". At first I was thinking it meant map mods, but after typing this out I feel I kinda answered my own question and boss atlas perks such as map drops and witness would happen for sure.

The question here is: Does it work with Metamorph? Can we have up to six bosses in a map dropping unique body parts?

Edit: 9 bosses.

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Phrazz wrote:

The question here is: Does it work with Metamorph? Can we have up to six bosses in a map dropping unique body parts?

Edit: 9 bosses.

Oh, that is a good point I never thought about. I would actually go for Metamorph nodes if this would work.

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sumfight wrote:

Oh, that is a good point I never thought about. I would actually go for Metamorph nodes if this would work.

I would too. But as she "spawns" them, I doubt it. Metamorph only works with pre-spawned/natural monsters and not monsters spawned by Breach, Blight etc.

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Map Bosses are accompanied by a mysterious Harbinger
Map Bosses drop additional Currency Shards

If you're doing harbinger farming with sextant you get an extra 2 bosses worth of shards per map on average. Seems good. I hate waiting for harbinger personally.

[Edit] The tormented spirit node doesn't let you touch unique monsters awwwwww.

I didn't think "final map boss drops ____" applied to extra bosses and you only got 1x roll of rewards even on a twinned map that had multiple bosses. This change makes me think otherwise?

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The Sextant modifiers that cause the Final Map Boss in each Map to drop an additional Shaper Guardian, Elder Guardian, or Conqueror Map have been changed to drop upon Completing your Maps.

If it does work then it might push Maven witness farming up to the value of altars as you said. It would be triple the special map drop chance every map on average.

I guess it would be good to test that once the patch is up on the standard character.

Would be really good to get GGG confirmation about what works and what not.

when maven "summons" them at start of fight, should not work for metamorph or harbingers, because those cant be added after the map is created.
there is now even discussion if those adds will be witnessed!


would be important to get some FAQ clarity about the matter!

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sumfight wrote:

I am assuming they count as being witnessed, since this would maybe make people finally not always pick alters.

Just tested this part on standard: the extra summoned bosses do NOT count as being witnessed :/

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uglym wrote:

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sumfight wrote:

I am assuming they count as being witnessed, since this would maybe make people finally not always pick alters.

Just tested this part on standard: the extra summoned bosses do NOT count as being witnessed :/

What about metamorph?

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CaseyRybak wrote:

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uglym wrote:

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sumfight wrote:

I am assuming they count as being witnessed, since this would maybe make people finally not always pick alters.

Just tested this part on standard: the extra summoned bosses do NOT count as being witnessed :/

What about metamorph?

Just tried this out and it seems only the organs from the original boss can be used to create the metamorph.