'Snowstorm' cluster notable and conversion

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neohongkong wrote:

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auspexa wrote:

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cavemandiary2 wrote:

So basically what you are saying is that i was correct to be sceptical, and that it actually doesnt work?

it works, but only after the first hit.

wrong answer at all. What if the skill is linked to elemental focus?

obviously he wouldnt be using elemental focus if he wants to chill enemies with his main skill...

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auspexa wrote:

obviously he wouldnt be using elemental focus if he wants to chill enemies with his main skill...

unless 100% to chill, why you think 2nd hit will work?

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neohongkong wrote:

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auspexa wrote:

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cavemandiary2 wrote:

So basically what you are saying is that i was correct to be sceptical, and that it actually doesnt work?

it works, but only after the first hit.

wrong answer at all. What if the skill is linked to elemental focus?

Okay, now you confuse me. You both said the exact same thing, but now you seem to be contradicting yourself.

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neohongkong wrote:

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auspexa wrote:

obviously he wouldnt be using elemental focus if he wants to chill enemies with his main skill...

unless 100% to chill, why you think 2nd hit will work?

because there's no such thing as 100% to chill, cold damage from hits always inflicts chill as long as you're not using something like secrets of suffering. there's no modifier that gives "chance to chill" and you don't need to crit to chill enemies. there's only chance to freeze, which allows you to freeze enemies without critting

chills with less than 5% effect will be discarded and won't apply, but that should pretty much never be the case if the majority of his damage is cold, unless he's literally zdps

already said. It is not depends on nth shot

If using skitterbot or other setup to chill the monster first, the passive already work in the 1st shot

However, if linking to elemental focus or other means to reduce the chill chance to zero, no matter it is 2nd or 10th shot, it does not work


The only thing for ailment is, if that shot ignite the monster, any effect will only affect the next shot (if the ignite is not expire), but not retroactively affect the shot that ignite . Same logic for chill.


So that the main point never about it is 1st or 2nd shot. The passive work or not depends on the monster is already chilled or not.

yes, but in most cases, excluding exceptions like skitterbots, ele focus, secrets of suffering, expedition's end or the three dragons, it'll work after the first hit on a pure cold build. in some cases it'll never work, in some cases it'll work for every hit. we're basically saying the same thing anyway

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auspexa wrote:

yes, but in most cases, excluding exceptions like skitterbots, ele focus, secrets of suffering, expedition's end or the three dragons, it'll work after the first hit on a pure cold build. in some cases it'll never work, in some cases it'll work for every hit. we're basically saying the same thing anyway

dude.....The Three Dragons is a very common levelling unique.....

Who would wear a three dragons while leveling unless they were doing a non fire ignite build -_-

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Draegnarrr wrote:

Who would wear a three dragons while leveling unless they were doing a non fire ignite build -_-

the same reason that people wear Abyssus and ask why they keep dying? (or why reduced reflect damage does not work?) In this game way way many people does not read. Even streamer meme for not reading map mod and die from reflect

It is not uncommon that newbie messed up the build...so that it is very unclear to say 'Snowstorm' work on 2nd hit. The correct answer should be it works on already chilled monsters . This is some kind of logical presentation of in-game mechanic

Okay, so as the OP I'm going to interject at this point to say this:

You've both been very helpful at clarifying the original question, but now this has turned into nitpicky discussion on semantics. If i wasn't, in fact, already well versed with how poe mechanics work (but this was a niche exception), this is now more confusing than actually helpful.

So thank you very much, but unless something new is presented, lets just consider the matter to be both asked and answered.