Path Of Exile should straigh up copy scroll of escape from D4 HC
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Yo, long time POE player here, almost always in hardcore.
After playing D4 for a bit, i believe the scroll of escape is a much much better solution than a Logout macro. 1 : It is fair for everyone, if you have a bad connexion, you wont packet loss on using a scroll of escape vs a logout macro 2 : It is an organic implementation, everybody can use it, you don't have to install a 3rd party app 3 : It is overall more accepted than a logout macro, first, it is officiel, so it is more accepted, then there is a cost to it. It's obviously not a perfect solution but it is a better solution. D4 has some good ideas, POE should just copy that one. Edit : A scroll of escape in D4 is a consumable that allow you to tp back to town instantly on use, safely and regardless of the situation. Last edited by SonOf7Less#3410 on Jun 21, 2023, 11:38:21 AM Last bumped on Jun 27, 2023, 5:27:10 PM
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both the scroll of escape and the a logout macro shouldn't exist at all.
If you mess up it's more than reasonable to punish you with the death of your character rather than giving you the free opportunity to get your butt saved. Cause what's the point of playing HC if everyone logs out or scrolls out of dangerous or misplayed situations lol Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun. Last edited by Pashid#4643 on Jun 20, 2023, 4:55:14 PM
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" Can't speak for D4, but what about people who lose chars because of server issues? |
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" The logout macro has two main advantage, the most important one is to prevent death to lag/crash The second one, and that was covered in one of the D4 dev talk, is that the ability to quit a fight allow you to try it and then bail if it's too hard, otherwise you would never be able to do content in the game. Edit : I'll also add that POE is an hard enough game that even with a logout macro, unless your name is ben or steelmage, you'll pretty much die to your own mistakes regardless. Last edited by SonOf7Less#3410 on Jun 20, 2023, 5:13:37 PM
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" You should probably precisely describe what it is and how to use it before talking about it then. This is the PoE forums, not D4. " It has been said and shown times and times that GGG has been designing their game expecting people to be able to exit instantly at any time, therefore what you are saying is irrelevant and only your own opinion. What the game should or not be is not up to you, period. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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" what you said is factual and sounds good. but that last sentence sounds too challenging i think pashid brought up a valid point and everybody, yourself included made good counter-arguments, but then you overkilled it and now the last sentence looks like you are un-inviting people from contributing i dont even have any business here other than reading, because i too was wondering about the details of the item but i didnt want it to end on that note |
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" If it had been "The game would be better with [...]" or something like this, I would have had no problem with it and would have have pointed it out (as everybody has their own opinion and this is a forum about feedback). But "It should be like this" kind of statement is clearly showing that the person speaking knows better, and I think that it's either arrogant or entitled. I know that some will said "somebody wrote it so it is de-facto an opinion therefore there can never be a problem" but no, I am sorry but words do have meaning and this is a way of writing that is pretty strong, which is why I reacted to it. The way it was written simply bothered me (that's why I bolded the word too). SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jun 21, 2023, 3:51:01 AM
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How will this solve connection issues killing HC characters? My understanding of the Scroll of Escape is that it isn't automatic, which means it's useless to save characters who die to lag.
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" You are right, i m going to add it. |
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Yes, it is better. It's essentially a "finite logout macro". Make it account-bound non-tradable too. Watching HC scene is more thrilling when players cannot spam logout macro endlessly.
Disconnects do happen as evident when 70-80 percent of HC deaths in D4 are caused by disconnects and bugs, prior to the introduction of the Scroll of Escape. Even a highly skilled HC ARPG player like imexile died to endless degen bug. It is unfair to outright deny logout macros but we can limit them. It should be a rare drop. Perhaps players can gain an additional use for every disconnects while a rare or unique enemy is nearby, but this is only if the game client has the tech to detect such scenarios. They should also limit the gain to one per 12 hours to avoid exploits. If the disconnect was caused by a known server-wide crash, then the 12-hour quota can be exempted. The rarity of the drop should also increase as the player gains more copies of it to avoid hoarding, or simply have ceiling. Last edited by jeerinho#7997 on Jun 21, 2023, 12:48:10 PM
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