Crafting for newer players is extremely frustrating

Eh, crafting in this game is both hit and miss.
It's hit where some endgame items are really simple and deterministic crafts

here's an example: aura / ek bow:

1) get a bow and roll T1 dot multiplier. this can take some time but currency is cheap. regal it to rare and annul - hopefully you have a rare bow with just DOT multiplier, no other mods.

2) take it to crafting bench and put multimod (can have up to 3 crafted mods) and cannot roll atk mods.

3) slam it with redeemer's exalted orb - this will give you either extra phys as cold (best) or frenzy charge on kill (decent). This is the only non-deterministic part of that craft.

4) slam it with regular exalted orb to guarantee +1 gems

5) crafting bench again: scour crafted mods, put on multimod again, then +2 support gems and finally whatever else you want (fire dot multi or sth).

expense: 5 divines on bench, 1 ex, 1 redeemer's ex, some annuls and alts.


EK helmet (2x elevated endgame helmet):

1) buy influenced helmets you need (warlord and redeemer)
2) harvest reforge fire to get mods you need (T1 ones) together with another influenced modifier
3) RNG gamba: maven orb (called orb of dominance now? idk lol the one that elevates influenced affixes)
4) fuse them together once both items have elevated ignite mods using orb of awakening. Hope for a good prefix. I got 20% ele damage, pretty good

Cost: depends how much luck on elevating, i spent 7 divs

These are simple endgame fun crafts that save you a ton of currency. Buying this gear off trade site is really not recommended, you'll spend twice as much and crafting tutorials are available on yt.






But then there are crafts with huge gambles, aisling slams with little chance of success (mass-using aisling himself is a cancer requiring TFT usage), youre bursting currency into flames and get fuck all.
i dont know why you insist crafting on a non fractured base. its not like you`re crafting some mirror tier synth base that you need to imprint...

you need like 3 modifier on crucible tree - pride effect which is probably best dps and you should have auls for that, incr explicit physical dmg modifier magnitudes and attack speed just for qol.

spam the base with contempt essence until you hit t4/5 hybrid, scour the suffix and multimod with attack speed + physical dmg overtime.
Last edited by feral_nature#7076 on May 21, 2023, 5:15:44 AM
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feral_nature wrote:
i dont know why you insist crafting on a non fractured base. its not like you`re crafting some mirror tier synth base that you need to imprint...


Most players do not understand that. They cannot figure out something by themselves without a guide anymore either.

They want the mirror tier item because they think it's necessary to complete the game. Yet almost all properly balanced builds can complete everything including ubers with 4-5 solid modifiers or less if the build focuses only on a certain content type.
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Esubane wrote:
Eh, crafting in this game is both hit and miss.
It's hit where some endgame items are really simple and deterministic crafts

here's an example: aura / ek bow:

1) get a bow and roll T1 dot multiplier. this can take some time but currency is cheap. regal it to rare and annul - hopefully you have a rare bow with just DOT multiplier, no other mods.

2) take it to crafting bench and put multimod (can have up to 3 crafted mods) and cannot roll atk mods.

3) slam it with redeemer's exalted orb - this will give you either extra phys as cold (best) or frenzy charge on kill (decent). This is the only non-deterministic part of that craft.

4) slam it with regular exalted orb to guarantee +1 gems

5) crafting bench again: scour crafted mods, put on multimod again, then +2 support gems and finally whatever else you want (fire dot multi or sth).

expense: 5 divines on bench, 1 ex, 1 redeemer's ex, some annuls and alts.


EK helmet (2x elevated endgame helmet):

1) buy influenced helmets you need (warlord and redeemer)
2) harvest reforge fire to get mods you need (T1 ones) together with another influenced modifier
3) RNG gamba: maven orb (called orb of dominance now? idk lol the one that elevates influenced affixes)
4) fuse them together once both items have elevated ignite mods using orb of awakening. Hope for a good prefix. I got 20% ele damage, pretty good

Cost: depends how much luck on elevating, i spent 7 divs

These are simple endgame fun crafts that save you a ton of currency. Buying this gear off trade site is really not recommended, you'll spend twice as much and crafting tutorials are available on yt.






But then there are crafts with huge gambles, aisling slams with little chance of success (mass-using aisling himself is a cancer requiring TFT usage), youre bursting currency into flames and get fuck all.


So trying this method, on the emulator just to learn, when I got to the exalted orb slam it does not guarantee +1, you can get chance for Frenzy charge on kill. Seems about 50/50 between the Frenzy on kill and +1.

So that's 3 Divine then you got to start all over for another 50/50. I guess it's better odds but still it can easily cost you a hell of a lot more than 5 divine. 5D is the best possible scenario. Also, after the +2 support the emulator seems to say you can't have any other mods added. I think the can have 3 crafted counts as a mod itself?
many players hold onto their precious candy chaos orbs and essences and fossils ect to sell...

if ive learned anything in this game, stop seeing "value" in these items and take the opportunity to use them! you will learn simply by using them!

also craftofexile has a simulator to practice and theres plenty of youtube videos out there for specific items.

poe is a in-depth complex game, its just how it is, but like i say! dont be afraid to play around with the currency to craft things, its part of the game too!
Last edited by Cchris07#7105 on May 21, 2023, 6:37:19 AM
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feral_nature wrote:
i dont know why you insist crafting on a non fractured base. its not like you`re crafting some mirror tier synth base that you need to imprint...

you need like 3 modifier on crucible tree - pride effect which is probably best dps and you should have auls for that, incr explicit physical dmg modifier magnitudes and attack speed just for qol.

spam the base with contempt essence until you hit t4/5 hybrid, scour the suffix and multimod with attack speed + physical dmg overtime.


The emulator I used to get the T4/t5 hybrid is the one that costed 30+ divine and it was a fractured bow. It took 200 essences with a 30% quality and nearly 400 with a 20% quality for T4 (NOT A MIRROR bow). And fractured is not going to help with the Aisling slam.

Who said I bought a non fractured base? It's not, I just bought a different fractured base than the original I ran the emulator with. People like yourself get on my nerves when they keep trying to say I want to make a mirror tier bow, when I am not. The bow I was trying to craft is nearly half the damage of a mirror tier bow. Do you have any idea how much damage a mirror tier bow does? That would be 1,600 damage, even that does not cost a mirror. I was trying to go for at least a messily 750 phys dps (and it must be a high flat damage bow, a slow attack like 1.25-1.4 attack speed). Not anywhere close to a mirror, So stop accusing me of wanting the impossible. You can buy a 1000 pdps bow for 45 Divine.

There are no YT videos or guides on how to make a Bleed bow since the harvest change. So everything I had to do was what I could figure out from cArns guild on how to craft an axe, which is not a bleed bow or even have the same mods.

When I first started the emulator I didn't have the currency for a fractured 200 phys%, but someone suggested the hybrid and I was able to get a 74% phys hybrid T2 for 2 divine. Then I used Deafening essence of contempt on it, took me 19 IRL to get a decent roll with an open prefix. Spent another 2 divine for prefix cannot be changed. Then the Aisling slam failed and gave me a suffix (40% chance to do double damage on focus), it also gave me a 19% attack speed suffix. Now I could start all over and cost me another 2-4 divine (buying a Aisling with a high chance to fail) or just craft Phys %. So I crafted the phys % which cost me another Divine (690 pDPS with a 710 top end). It's nothing close to what I wanted (not bleed mod) but I don't have 30-60 extra Divine (not close to a mirror) to get the right Aisling slam, and I have no idea if the 105% phys bleed would be any better. PoB says it's not, but PoB has been known to be wrong.

If I blow all my currency on a bow what good will that do without gear?

PoB says the bow is good enough if I have the other gear, still though it is leaps and bound easier to get a decent caster weapon.
newer player? crafting? poe?

HAHAHA

i ve never crafted anything.

until harvest came along, i've crafted tons of GG jewels. 1 "awesome glove" and 1 "awesome chest", not as good as it could have been but was pretty good.

i used to craft cluster jewels but nowadays i feel its more worth it to just buy from players.

also

what is a "new player"?

i've stopped recommending POE to friends. trading is difficult and currency is stingy AF.

anything i want i normally save up and buy from other players.
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