Party bonus is way more powerful than solo reward

it has been a longstanding issue that party playstyle farm so many good items at the very beginning while most solo players are struggling to red maps.

idk why you keep ignoring it but at least do some balance, thanks.

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lonestaRip wrote:

it has been a longstanding issue that party playstyle farm so many good items at the very beginning while most solo players are struggling to red maps.

idk why you keep ignoring it but at least do some balance, thanks.

Fully agree that running as a party is increadibly strong, but it does come at a risk. But a a normally solo player. i would like some kind of buff for running alone, a simple damage buff maybe?

a lot of party lovers will say party loot has already been nerfed.

my counterpoints:

1. in a party there are more targets. players are more safe
2. in a party, even an unoptimized party, players will have access to more auras/party buffs.
3. shared costs allowing them to access/clear content faster

also we do have leech parties where hosts make parties with players who are not allowed to attack or loot, just leech. the host gains benefit in the form of increased rarity / quantity

when running blighted maps, unless u have a very optimized build that has huge aoe/damage, playing in party would make the experience much more easier. compared to someone using a strike skill.

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exsea wrote:

a lot of party lovers will say party loot has already been nerfed.

my friend plays 6 characters as a team farming crimson temple, has got 1mirror, 2magabloods, 1headhunter and tons of decent items so far, this is crazy.

i dont mean to envy or what, but there is a huge gap between party and solo.

+1

party bonus GIGA powerful OP broken!

Don't you know that adding party members increases the difficulty in exchange for more rewards? Remember that wonderful post by Chris explaining the philosophies of PoE?

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Path of Exile is a game about opting-in to more difficulty in exchange for more rewards. You can roll your maps to be harder or add sextants to them. You can play with additional party members. You can trigger additional stacking league content like Delirium. All of these things make the game harder in exchange for more and better rewards.

You are not trying to say that Chris is wrong, are you? The blasphemy!

Of course party play is objectively better than solo play. It's intended to be.

If you subjectively enjoy the game more playing solo, that's fine? But the game was always designed, from literally the very beginning, to be played in small groups.

/Players 6

Simple solution but you just know GGG will resist it, because it makes sense.

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lonestaRip wrote:

it has been a longstanding issue that party playstyle farm so many good items at the very beginning while most solo players are struggling to red maps.

idk why you keep ignoring it but at least do some balance, thanks.

They aren't ignoring it, This is how the game is supposed to be.

If you are struggling to get to red maps it has nothing to do with a party and everything to do with your build.

Party play is actually very difficult to get going in a smooth manner.. Often people cant keep up with eachother or their defenses are lacking in different areas.. Just 1-2 deaths is enough to really hurt a map run when you have no more ports to get back in.

Don't even get me started on teaching basic PARTY ETIQUETTE.

I do everything i can to try and set people up for success in this area but no matter how hard you try most of these groups end up with a carry and a bunch of aura's its not so much about being that god-carry group as it is just sheer difficulty leading to a level of optimized play that for now knows no equal.

If i had to really drop a bomb here it would be that Party-Content really does not exist, I've been asking GGG for real content just for partys to separate these groups from solo players and smaller groups... Content that unlike your average map or simulacrum actually requires multiple people using their noggin to complete the objectives.(raid tier)

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Kelvynn wrote:

Don't you know that adding party members increases the difficulty in exchange for more rewards? Remember that wonderful post by Chris explaining the philosophies of PoE?

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Path of Exile is a game about opting-in to more difficulty in exchange for more rewards. You can roll your maps to be harder or add sextants to them. You can play with additional party members. You can trigger additional stacking league content like Delirium. All of these things make the game harder in exchange for more and better rewards.

You are not trying to say that Chris is wrong, are you? The blasphemy!

nobody is talking right or wrong, i think you miss the point here.

who will care the map difficulty as a team? is it hard enough for you to use 36 portals? but the reward bonus is more than you can imagine.

you think it takes 6 real man to play as a team? nonono, it takes one man and 3 computers or less to run a MF team.

Chris said those on the side of vested interests, he knows exactly they need these streamers.