Comparisons to Archnemesis are WRONG

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MrWonderful99 wrote:

I don't particularly enjoy playing the Crucible mechanic, but holy smoke the rewards are completely OP. Yikes. This is assuming you know how to figure out what mods will best serve your build. And that takes doing some research and also some time searching and understanding most of all what your build lacks. I think people get lost just searching for POB DPS and ignore quality of life and Defense.

Since I am in a decent mood I'll give you guys who are hating on this league some advice. Search for the tree what suits you and then do the crafting yourself. Bingo. This league "forces" you to craft your weapon/shield after you get the proper base to min/max. Which is fine, and I have no idea what the heck some of these posts complaining about the lack of crafting. This IS the crafting league!

It doesn't take research or skill, it takes luck. The good mods in a particular weapon tree are like 1/1000 odds, some of the best mods can only be gained by random mutation when combining trees which is even less likely. The odds of getting the passives you want on the same weapon are astronomically low, either through naturally rolling them, or mashing weapons together and hoping it keeps the passives you want and doesn't delete them.

99% of the time you interact with this league you get garbage and it feels bad. 0.9% you get something mediocre like a sells for currency passive or something generic and low tier that ends up being marginally beneficial. 0.1% you get something good that you probably can't use with your build and would require further RNG combinations to make into something great.

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Astasia wrote:

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MrWonderful99 wrote:

I don't particularly enjoy playing the Crucible mechanic, but holy smoke the rewards are completely OP. Yikes. This is assuming you know how to figure out what mods will best serve your build. And that takes doing some research and also some time searching and understanding most of all what your build lacks. I think people get lost just searching for POB DPS and ignore quality of life and Defense.

Since I am in a decent mood I'll give you guys who are hating on this league some advice. Search for the tree what suits you and then do the crafting yourself. Bingo. This league "forces" you to craft your weapon/shield after you get the proper base to min/max. Which is fine, and I have no idea what the heck some of these posts complaining about the lack of crafting. This IS the crafting league!

It doesn't take research or skill, it takes luck. The good mods in a particular weapon tree are like 1/1000 odds, some of the best mods can only be gained by random mutation when combining trees which is even less likely. The odds of getting the passives you want on the same weapon are astronomically low, either through naturally rolling them, or mashing weapons together and hoping it keeps the passives you want and doesn't delete them.

99% of the time you interact with this league you get garbage and it feels bad. 0.9% you get something mediocre like a sells for currency passive or something generic and low tier that ends up being marginally beneficial. 0.1% you get something good that you probably can't use with your build and would require further RNG combinations to make into something great.

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Look, if you are wanting 5 perfect mods you are going to be waiting all league. If you get your 3 important mods that is enough - heck if you get your 2 important mods and a couple of OK ones you are golden and that is relatively easy to get in trade league. I got my totally OP claw base for 10c and fossil crafted it for another 50c or so. My shield I just bought the one I wanted and the tree had 35 max life and 30 resist which I consider to be just a little bonus.

It is all about perspective. Anyway, I don't do the league mechanic after I got my claw but that's mainly because I'm a speed mapper.



NOTE: ok, just to prove my point I spent about an hour and 100c finding the base and then crafting this shield. I can't block spell damage anyway so that doesn't matter. So I have an amazing life/resists/evasion shield with good block and also it adds 500,000 dps to my Viper Strike build with the Herald mod.

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crunkatog wrote:

Crucible was designed for Ruthless in mind, that's why there aren't any item drops. It's supposed to reward you by giving you a chance to add an improvement to a wep you pick up off the ground.

If you don't want this as a reward, don't interact with the crucible. Unless you're in Ruthless, there should be plenty of other content to engage with that has item drops as its primary reward.

How much people are even playing ruthless?

AN league was light years better than this version of standart.

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Sogolon wrote:

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crunkatog wrote:

Crucible was designed for Ruthless in mind, that's why there aren't any item drops. It's supposed to reward you by giving you a chance to add an improvement to a wep you pick up off the ground.

If you don't want this as a reward, don't interact with the crucible. Unless you're in Ruthless, there should be plenty of other content to engage with that has item drops as its primary reward.

How much people are even playing ruthless?

This got me curious, so I looked - ruthless has fewer than 4k characterrs that are 65+ across all its modes combined... so, almost nobody is playing ruthless.

Ruthles is the next excuse for bad leagues..

The league mechanic takes like 20-30 seconds in a map and if u have a strong build you can almost always pump to 100%. Ok the channeling is obv not that great, especially for hardcore...

Even if you don't get the tree of a lifetime, i got stuff like 30 awakened sextants from time to time as a bonus for investing timeto look for sth worthwhile...

There are probably nodes by now which are worth something, i am not aware of everything but you can probably farm bases that are worth 100-150 c just beacuse there is some mod on there that people desperately want to roll.

I don't see why the league mechanic is considered one of the worst. Seems to me like people are not willing to take some time and get used to the new tools that are offered to them.

no the league mechanic is just boring. Kill hard mobs for no loot and get the chance of revealing one item per map. and then, even if you find something usefuzl, you need to craft and hope that the forge doesn't fuck up. and this you will do at least 4 times. imagine how "fun" it is to brick an item where you invested 200 maps into and then the last forge bricks 1 or 2 of prior nodes.

Thanks ggg, now i can play the absolute same progress again, how thougthful of you. and maybe, in those 2k maps i need to do to find thoses bases again, i also find some items i can vendor for a divine or sell on trade for 50c.

poe2 needs the manpower i guess, don't know why they brought out this shit after the quite fun sanctum league.

If you have 4 out of 5 you would imprint the magic item with the tree and recraft a better weapon afterwards on that base. You can also split items that you want to slam on your base so you have more tries.
Obv this is some expensive endgame stuff, but look at the dps numbers for wepaons on the trade site, some of them are insanely high. Total power creep