Make poison chaos only

That would be a good idea to prevent seismic trap nerf

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

Finding poison is as natural as foragers eating the wrong plant. If "natural" means anything at all (and I don't really think it does, personally), eating plants or getting a spider bite is surely far more natural than, say, having an ancient god construct a god-suppressing body-horror bioweapon that people thousands of years later are mining the crystalline hide of to make gems that let them shoot fireballs from their hands.

lava exists in a non living form, in extension comes fire. lightning too occurs naturally. rubbing things together can produce both heat and even static electricity. ice too is a natural element. it shares its roots with fire. if the temperature is low, things freeze.

this is in real life nature. these things exist via factors that are understandable and reproducible. ice and lightning harder than fire.

as for poison, poison in our normal understanding, occurs as a result of a living organism. toadstools, snakes, spiders. even in most common RPG settings, poison is almost always a result of a living organism rather than an element that naturally occurs.

this is also why in rpgs, poison is almost always closely tied to alchemy. its a science of mixing potions.


heck, look at poe itself. there are tons of spells but NONE of them actually does poison damage naturally. alchemist mark simply replicates the strongest poison you've made into a dot area. plague bearer doesnt "create" poison, it stores a portion that you've dealt and releases it on demand.

chaos is so unnatural in poe that even spells dont inherently create poison. i would need to highlight, it is unnatural for PLAYERS/EXILES and even the non creature antagonists that use poison.

since we're on the topic, if we're being more lore accurate, poison shouldnt be even tied to chaos damage. chaos is an unnatural force that simply is... chaos. in other rpgs, chaos is usually close to dark/antimatter/negative/necromancy/demonic energy. poison is supposed to be a result of alchemy.

it would actually make more sense that poison scale purely from physical damage, where the weapon/instrument used to apply the poison does damage and the poison acts based on that damage dealt. chaotic energy would destabilize the chemical composition of any venom applied to the instrument, rendering poison useless. similarly lightning might synthesize the chemical components into something else entirely, fire would burn of the chemicals, ice would freeze the chemicals solid so no reaction can immediately occur.

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exsea wrote:

as for poison, poison in our normal understanding, occurs as a result of a living organism. toadstools, snakes, spiders. even in most common RPG settings, poison is almost always a result of a living organism rather than an element that naturally occurs.

Living organisms are a natural occurrence.

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

Living organisms are a natural occurrence.

lol whut. so you're throwing everything i mentioned about themes, which i even listed in game gems as examples?

ok man. theres no convincing you

I mean, the fact that I was posting to object to your arguments should already have suggested I wasn’t convinced by them. I don’t agree with your arguments, but that’s okay. We’re just two random people on the internet, I’m not here to change your mind.

I didn’t address your other points because they didn’t say anything to me. That’s how forums work. That’s not “throwing” anything anywhere, it’s just…not responding to something. That bit I did respond to just touched on the specific point I had made before, that’s all.