+3 / +3 = +6 Amulets.

Hi guys.

I was doing some theory crafting and figured crafting a +6 amulet would be possible with Simplex amulet. To my surprise I see now that it could be possible in some ways unknown to me with regular amulets too.

My theory: Craft +1 to skill gem / +1 to *insert element here* skill gem.

Simplex amulets implicit multiplies this with 1.25 so the stat is +1.25(+1 as it appears on the amulet.) Now Drop it in the mirror of ethereal reflection on difficulty 16 (which if poewiki.net is right, is a 2.4x multiplier that multiplies over Simplex's implicit) therefore 1.25x2.4 becomes 3 exactly. It should now give 3 to skill gem and 3 to selected element which is a grand total of 6 levels.

What I don't understand... how people pulled this off without Simplex amulet and have something like +3 to skill gems on an agate amulet for example? I went to check out trade to see if anyone has crafted a +6 yet and there are a handful of +3 amulets out there but not a single +6 ones.

I would grately appreciate any replies.

2.4 seems to be the multiplier for D16, yes. However, it is likely that this is actually additive with the Simplex Amulet implicit (this based on the evidence from the trade site), taking it to a 2.65 and not rounding up to 3. This is wrong - see the posts below.

The reason there are some +3s on trade is because the naturally spawning ones can achieve higher multipliers of at least 3.0. It would be exceptionally rare (1 in 61,321 chance according to CoE) for a randomly generated amulet in a D16 Lake tile to have +1 all and another +1.

As you can see from https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/wzl864/soul_clasp_kalandra_ethereal_mistd_simplex_amulet/
Reflecting Mist mod magnitude multiplier is multiplicative with sum of Simplex Amulet implicit and Catalyst quality.

However according to https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/x732eh/psa_difficulty_16_kalandra_mirror_ur_items_with/ Simplex Amulet can't get +3 from Ethereal Reflecting Mist. Those +3 amulets come from common Reflecting Mists that provide more generous multipliers.

Thanks for those links Mona - someone in the comments of the second post seems to have got it.

The post states that the amulet started with 37% Lightning Resistance and ended up with 110%. This means that the Lake multiplier is applied, then rounded, and THEN the Simplex implicit is applied. This of course makes sense once you think about it. Supporting calculations:

37 * 2.4 * 1.25 = 111
floor(37 * 2.4) * 1.25 = 110

This means it is impossible to acquire a +5 or +6 amulet, except by getting exceptionally lucky with a random mist.

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PurpleChakra wrote:

The post states that the amulet started with 37% Lightning Resistance and ended up with 110%. This means that the Lake multiplier is applied, then rounded, and THEN the Simplex implicit is applied. This of course makes sense once you think about it. Supporting calculations:

37 * 2.4 * 1.25 = 111
floor(37 * 2.4) * 1.25 = 110

Well that explains it. Big sad. So getting a plus 6 from the random mirror is as likely as getting 200 mirror dropped at once.

I know you're being hyperbolic, but a +6 is 'only' a 1 in 61,321 followed by a 1/2 chance for them both to be the same direction. 1 in 122,642 is insanely rare but probably only the same rarity as a mirror or three.