Reflect issue since 3.19

Aspect of carnage is the culprit

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Hi,

Data :
My character : https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/mout/characters/TamaKalandraOnFire

Example of Map (+mods) :

Using divine flesh, so i know that my damage taken will be 50% of chaos damage. That's why i opted in for generic reduced reflected damage. I looked at map mods and everything is fine. I'm also immune to generic elemental ailments (but not from the alternate ones from delirium league that are not on this map).


Scenario for testing purpose :
Prerequisites :
- Character with divine flesh and dealing fire damage (converted from physical damage) with Avatar of fire
- Yugul Pantheon (upgraded) for both generic reduced reflected damage and reduced curse effect
- Crafted flask with 50+ reduced reflected damage crafted mod (and no reduced effect)
- Flask with reduced curse effect (at least 64%; suffix of the Owl) and Alchemist prefix for extra effect.
- Red map with Elemental reflect mod

Action :
hit the first pack and see your life getting lower or having a resurrect panel appearing.

I litterally died on the first pack even after activating my flasks. Tried on 1 mobs and still got a close to death result.


Update/EDIT : i just tested with Alchemist's corundum flask with 55% reduced reflected damage taken crafted => 66% reduced reflected damage taken.

So i have 118% reduced reflected damage, i also removed aspect of the carnage, unnerved & on ash effect. still some damage taken back.

It's very strange.
Last edited by mout#5926 on Sep 9, 2022, 3:29:07 AM
Last bumped on Sep 8, 2022, 6:06:28 PM
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Aspect of Carnage gives you 10% increased damage taken.

You might also take more damage from cursing yourself (cluster jewel passive, enemies you curse are unnerved--take 10% increased spell damage), or from covering yourself in ash (5% chance to cover enemies in ash on hit while burning).
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Jadian wrote:
Aspect of Carnage gives you 10% increased damage taken.

Very well put answer, so the issue is probably aspect of carnage in my case, i overlooked that aspect.
So in my case i need to be at least at 110% reflected effect to counteract aspect of carnage.

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Jadian wrote:

You might also take more damage from cursing yourself (cluster jewel passive, enemies you curse are unnerved--take 10% increased spell damage), or from covering yourself in ash (5% chance to cover enemies in ash on hit while burning)



Though i'm pretty condifent that the unnerved or cover ash parts are not something that is reflected on me. It's the damage output the enemy reflect and not the effect i would have applied on the enemy.
I'm not doing self curse neither.
Last edited by mout#5926 on Sep 8, 2022, 6:05:13 PM
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mout wrote:
So in my case i need to be at least at 110% reflected effect to

There are alot of other sources of increased damage taken that will make your reflect reduction insufficient. The Malediction modifier for example is 30% increased damage taken on rare monsters and 20% increased on magic monsters.

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