Almost a month in and I already feel like stepping away for the rest of the league

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Xzorn wrote:

BTW if you're having trouble generating currency then it's likely you invested into map based passives like Delirium, Blight, Legion, etc. I figured out real quick the trick was to invest in vendor item generation. Tuljin, Ritual, Heist (gems). These are independent of the nerfs to drop rates.

5 Divines from Ritual, 6 from Heist, 3 from Tuljin, 0 from map drops. ZERO

Well for me, as I've mentioned in the OP, I'm investing my atlas passives in content that doesn't depend on monster drops. Specifically: Heist, Incursion, Essence, Strongbox, and Expedition. Expedition has been my biggest money maker so far.

Is Ritual still good after all this time? I did particularly enjoy that league, but that may also be because of good memories I had of 3.13. I might drop Incursion for it.

+1 couldn't put it better to words.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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Xzorn wrote:

BTW if you're having trouble generating currency then it's likely you invested into map based passives like Delirium, Blight, Legion, etc. I figured out real quick the trick was to invest in vendor item generation. Tuljin, Ritual, Heist (gems). These are independent of the nerfs to drop rates.

5 Divines from Ritual, 6 from Heist, 3 from Tuljin, 0 from map drops. ZERO

Well for me, as I've mentioned in the OP, I'm investing my atlas passives in content that doesn't depend on monster drops. Specifically: Heist, Incursion, Essence, Strongbox, and Expedition. Expedition has been my biggest money maker so far.

Is Ritual still good after all this time? I did particularly enjoy that league, but that may also be because of good memories I had of 3.13. I might drop Incursion for it.

I'd say Ritual is about the most rewarding map based interaction you can do.

Plenty of times you just get a couple C. Then you get the special gold totems with 3 rerolls on them and it's a good chance you'll land a stack of 1-3 Divines to defer.

I'm fully spec'd into it. Every single point which is not the most efficient but like I mentioned I was going for refreshing windows and assumed anything that drops is gunna be bad.

I assumed this of strongboxes as well. Not sure if that's accurate. I did Essenses starting off. It helped a lot. I'm still wearing 3 pieces I see no reason to replace. I also did Delirium since it's been consistently decent but it's pretty bad also. Only money maker is crafting cluster jewels which if you're in trade league you don't need to waste passive points to do.

Heist has been odd. I get divine drops but I think I've gotten 4 blueprints ever. I have around 2mil coins with nothing to use them on. In Scourge I had to forgo some blueprints due to a shortage in coins so they for sure nerfed the drop rate. My goal here was originally for Alt Gem types.

The blueprints I did get were from within a Heist Contract themselves.
I think I've seen one from smuggler's caches.

I think I'm done too. Playing for the last week and a half has gone like this:

Play for 20 hours, no deaths. Then I die 2-3 times in 2-3 hours. Then no deaths for 20 hours more. Then 2-3 deaths in 2-3 hours. And the situations I'm dying in are as random as they come, usually to a few blue mobs.

Pre-league at least I was getting loot. This now is just a total waste of time.

Think I'm gonna play some DMC4 or Dead Cells. Or maybe get back to furier in Furi.

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jerot wrote:

I'm no stranger to taking leagues off early when I'm not having fun. This is the first league I've contemplated stepping away for longer, perhaps for good.

I don't trust GGG anymore, too many things were hidden from players, too many misleading messages, intentionally or not.

I don't see how they can resolve these issues by next league, let alone at all given what communication we have gotten. I don't think they understand how damaging this patch was to the game.

+1 Unfortunately, I don't think they pay attention to these kind of threads.

We're basically playing standard league. I think I've run lakes for 2 hours in the entirety of last week and that was just to get some challenges.

all good points.

I want to play, and when I do its fun up until I've bumped into a few rares and I remember why i've not been on in a few days.

as some one who doesnt juice. having poor rewards is.... normal to me.

for me what kills it is AN. POE used to be a game where i went in and deleted mobs and actually gain xp.

now i have to stay on my toes ALL the time for that ONE ODD AN mob that absolutely is a pain to kill.

also it really saddens me that we're back to the mf culling meta.

like wtf ggg? we used to do that for dominus runs. you improved the game significantly and now you're going back to that?

comparison is the demise of joy.

i really cant help but compare.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

Almost a month in and I already feel like stepping away

Which is totally OK, even in a good league.

For having done your utmost to give the vision a chance for a month, I salute you. My experience in standard has been very similar to what you describe.