ZDPS lightning conduit on T16 map boss HIGH INVESTMENT. Why is the POE community baiting

Every youtube video channel says it melt bosses for cheap but not for me ! im doing like 10% damage per 2 button skill on a alc and go T16 map boss . Look at my item every item i have is at least 4.5 stats ! Like what else does the game expect me to do at this point not even spending a mirror can help me kill a normal pinacle boss

This is my POB is someone is kind enough to spend effort looking at it

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How are you even attempting to consistently apply shocks? Are you trying to hit Hydrosphere with Forbidden Rite? That sounds kinda terrible if so. I can't imagine that combo and Hydrosphere pulses keeping pace with how fast you would be consuming the shocks with Conduit. You really should look into OoS, or get some modest investment in brands and use Storm Brand, or sth other than whatever it is you're doing. You need shocks being refreshed ASAP with Conduit. Every time you cast it on an enemy that is not shocked, it does no damage to that enemy.

I am actually witnessing a tapering off on Boss/Unique dmg at T16s too. There seems to be no Skill Gem Feedback post, so hijacking here.

I should be having multiple sources of applying shock at 65-75% OoS/Hydrosphere/Shock Nova, at least one of them should be applying a min of 65% in rapid succession and I should be chunking ~1mil average hit, ~5mil dps.

However I am pretty sure there's a few things at play here that is affecting full dps. I'm guessing on rares and uniques with humongous lifepools are not getting shocked on every hit and/or there's a cooldown preventing said mobs getting re-shocked?

Feels a bit odd to me that I can delete anything else.

Some bosses will end up with lesser shocks, but they should be avoiding any shocks altogether unless one of the sources is too lacking in damage/effect. And if you're running Elementalist with Shaper of Storms, that's just not even possible.

One factor that some people might not be considering is Eldritch Altar downsides. Giving bosses +max resistances and hefty lightning resistance with would be a bad call, for example. That would very noticeably impact your DPS on them. Spell Suppression is another factor. And so on.

I don't find my DPS unexpectedly lacking when bossing myself. Some based AN mobs were harder to DPS down than bosses, but even that has been improved on with recent changes to AN mods.

I'm wondering if I'm casting faster than I can shock, but I don't see how that's possible with at least three different shock spells actively shocking them. Lightning Conduit should be consistently chunking the bosses but it doesn't always seem to. Feels like there's some inconsistency I'm noticing.

Re: lesser shock on Bosses, I've seen as low as 45% which is just shy of 1M average hit.

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I'm wondering if I'm casting faster than I can shock, but I don't see how that's possible with at least three different shock spells actively shocking them. Lightning Conduit should be consistently chunking the bosses but it doesn't always seem to. Feels like there's some inconsistency I'm noticing.

Re: lesser shock on Bosses, I've seen as low as 45% which is just shy of 1M average hit.

Straight importing your character and putting 45% shock on a guardian/boss puts your average hit at ~400k unless I'm missing something, 300k without convergence up. That's average, and lightning damage has the widest range of damage values (which, in a feedback loop, also gives a wide range of shock values when you're consuming them at a rapid pace and not just applying the strongest one). I wouldn't be surprised if you were frequently getting shocks significantly lower than 45% without noticing.

That said, with a minimum shock value of 15% there should absolutely be a lowest minimum bound.

I use Storm Brand with Runebinder keystone for attaching 2 brands, and the nearby Runesmith notable (mainly for the 10% increased damage taken mobs get, though the cast speed is fine too). The hit rate of my brands (5.12 each) has zero issues keeping up with the cast speed of my Conduit (3.66). That's my only consistent source of applying shock (also got shock proliferation on my current gloves, but it doesn't really matter much with or without it), and it works just fine.

For the shocks themselves, I just have Storm Brand linked with Overcharge (currently still only lvl 18), Unbound Ailments (20/20) and Faster Casting (21/23). I don't think I really ever see them dip below 50 on bosses, and even that is fairly rare. Most are at 60-65. Some could potentially be lower and get used up to quickly to notice I guess, but as far as monitoring what's visible on the shock effect onscreen it looks fine.

It plays incredibly smoothly for me, as far as a build that requires being frequently stationary and actively maintaining at least 2 skills to work anyway. I definitely don't see any unexpected inconsistency in damage at any rate, against bosses or other insanity like 7+ essence mobs with juiced up AN mods.

Dont forget that Lightning Conduit has massive damage range. Even with the mastery of non crit hits are lucky it can happen mutliple times in a row that your hits do shit damage. Is realy anoiying. Sometimes i chunk t14+ mapbosses down like a superhero sometimes i barley see the hp move. But most of the time its acceptable damage. My current damage should be around 1,6-2.2 million dps according to PoB but im only 5 linked right now. When im sixlinked i hope for some real shit to happen^^
Its not bait its just high expactations. If build properly LC still looks very potent.