GGG Ltd. made 44.894.903 Dollar Profit

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The second reason is that we removed a massive historic bonus to item quantity and/or rarity that applied to some league-specific monsters. We replaced it with a moderate (2-3x) increase to item quantity, to offset the fact that they often have more life than regular monsters and some cannot drop maps.


behold your lovely company and their hidden changes
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they only thing you can do to be heard is stop shoving your hard earned money down their throat.

just stop paying and they will beg you to try out their new patches, and if they dont, someone will manage to eventually steal the game and open a bomb private server, its been done in bdo, wow, any other big game where the original team is not able to deliver a solid game even tough the base is there, someone with enough passion will open a private server one day where we finally can have fun again.
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Kane1992 wrote:
they only thing you can do to be heard is stop shoving your hard earned money down their throat.


Yes. If you are paying for Supporter packs, microtransactions or mystery boxes you are basically paying for the next 60 Mio. USD dividend for the overseas majority shareholders and not for the development of a fun version of POE.
So, we have got a fresh day 3 patch of the league in form of the 3.19.0c with changes that are 'quite impactful' probably like the +2 to cleave buff that almost broke the game.

That shows once more the company with 30. Mio US$/€ in profits, 60 Mio. US$/€ in cash and 60 Mio. US$/€ dividends is unwilling to spend a tiny fraction of that to do a proper quality check or is just unwilling to provide a good game like POE was in 3.13 AT LEAGUE START ON FRIDAY. They also prefered not to communicate drastic drop nerfs in the Manifesto and patch notes to make $$$ at league start (glad, I didn't fall for it).


To use the player base as testers yet again and make selective statements is highly disrespectful.


The deal in a free-to-play game is you provide a fun game and I will pay you voluntarily. I did it in the past and will do it in the future. But if you suck the fun out of your game for a 'vision' YOU cancel the deal. I am not touching this mess.

It is time to bring a separate 'vision mode' or 'hard mode', instead of pushing hard mode on the game itself. You have the money to do it. That way everyone can see that almost no one will like and play that game mode. It will be dead like 'Path of Exile Royale' very soon.

But if you make POE itself hardmode instead of funmode you are killing your fanbase.
No worries , others will pay.
Never invite Vorana, Last To Fall at a beer party.
Chris has already said they don't need a ton of players to grow the company and to make a profit. It's why Tencent bought them out.

They are a small company with a game that makes a ton of money compared to their size.

The company as it is now is focused 100% on POE2 which if not that big in the west will be massive in China. I would believe if someone told me China is basically more than 70 to 80% of their profit now. POE2 will just increase that.

The future of GGG as a company is very very bright in terms of profits. If GGG was based in America or the EU in terms of it would be easier to hire more staff they would be even bigger. Being based in NZ is holding the company back a lot.

Last edited by mrrick1781#5234 on Aug 23, 2022, 6:20:15 AM
I don't think the China operation is in the books of the New Zealand Company GGG Ltd. It is much more probable that it is a Chinese entity which is -at least now- 100% owned by Tencent. What NZ GGG Ltd. publishes are the western sales.

That is my elaborated guess and if you have proof otherwise link it, please.

Of course we have a delay in the published data. That means the profits and dividends are partly based on older succesful leagues, like 3.13. They need definitaly new players to keep the status quo. Mixed steam reviews, reddit on fire and a brutal reworked Act 1 won't help.

What holding GGG back to deliver an enjoyable Path of Exile in 2022 is the devs putting a stick in the bike wheel and not a lack of staff.
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Aynix wrote:
They dont need to make good leagues. They just need to make good mystery boxes.
(Yes, I bought supporter pack and lots of new mystery boxes even tho I think this league is a bugged mess)


So don't complain. You are the reason why they get away with it.


No, Im not the reason. You just need to face the raality: you voting with wallet or w.e means nothing. Vast majority spend money if they like the MTX, not to support the game or w.e


if people didn't spend money ggg would be rushing to make a game that people wouldn't have reason to complain about
do u expect 20 people can test the game in 1 month same as 200k people? i bet they focus on most critical functionality and regression
PoE1 nowadays looks more and more like a fan-made fork server with tons of custom weird experimental stuff rather than original game with carefully thought out balance brough live to players.
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Last edited by judikator#2053 on Aug 23, 2022, 10:43:19 AM
30 million may sound like a lot but blizz makes that in a week, like 6 billion profit a year. GGG are still a very small company as things go.
Git R Dun!
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