Why is Mathil able to do everything that is impossible according to most of the complains here?

should I buy an armor set? ------->

I played WoW for many years and I liked to do raids.
(For people who don't know WoW: Raids are multiplayer (10-40) fights vs. bosses. Each fight last 3-20 minutes. And you usualy use dps-meter.)

I did not play with players from top guilds but with good to very good ones.
I met only one player who was 40-50% "better" (that's a lot in WoW!) than the average and nobody could explain how he did it. And he did it with more than one class/build. Maybe excellent timing and of course top game/class knowledge.

Some are better than the majority :-)

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Zerber wrote:

Mathil plays the game super casual he just plays a lot.

No he doesn't, which is why he can.

He gets used as the poster boy for balance but everyone conveniently glosses over that he isn't a typical player, he is exceptionally experienced and in ways many players never get to because they only play OP cucked shit.

Does that mean those impossible things aren't possible? If you are an "average" player yes it does actually, if you want to put the effort into not being an average player then it opens up doors everywhere.

Mathil enjoys the game in his own way but its actually the exact reason I play HC, If you have the experience and the talent you can clear everything with real spud builds but I prefer when I can't clear with spud builds even though the balance and freedom are actually worse.

Definitely due for a league on SC though i'll never get the uber ubers done on HC.

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Zerber wrote:

Mathil plays the game super casual he just plays a lot.

He has no farming strat, he does random content and plays whatever he likes at the moment.

His atlas passive tree is inefficient and unproductive if you dont go for fun and focus on EX/hour

All his builds are off meta and/or cheap (I dont think he made a single build this league with over 50ex investment).

He doesnt really craft, his "crafting" is just randomly spamming chaos, essences and fossils on gear and maybee finishing it off with some basic crafting like blocking mods ect.

The only thing he does is playing what he likes and investing a lot of time. The thing is he still beats most content with every build he plays and some are even able to kill uber uber bosses.

According to most threads complaining about the current state of the game that is impossible.

Yes Mathil plays an insane amount of hours every league but you can just play 2 or 3 builds over the whole league instead of 20 like Mathil and archive the same things he does easily.

Im not trying to shit on Mathil with this post, he can play however he want and I guess his approach saves him from burning out. Im just using Mathil and his casual playstyle to show you that he basicaly proofs you wrong live on stream every day.

playing a lot does a shit ton.
50 ex is a lot think i haven't spend more than 10 on my average characters. with some of course i spend more.

besides saying mathil is casual is just plain dumb cause he's not that's pretty clear to everyone.

Mathil has been playing this game as a full time job for many, many years. He is extremely proficient, experienced, and can do things even a hardcore player who plays alot but below streamer level of playing wont be able to. Using such people in discussions revolving decisions and balance that affect regular players is completely useless, a handful of people play the game like he does, and most are also full-time streamers who dedicated a good portion of their lives at this point to the game.

There are people who can beat DS3 (people love to throw around this game as "hardcore") naked, without leveling, jumping, rolling, blocking or running on NG+. Does that mean the game should be made 10x more difficult, to be balanced around these type of people? I mean SURELY if at least someone can beat the game like this, it means everyone should be expected to dedicate this much time and effort into their offtime entertainment hobby, right?

Nobody balances mario level timers around speedrunners, because that would be absurd. Same logic here, streamers are basically irrelevant for the balance of a PvE game, since the dominant majority of even semi-hardcore and hardcore players wont play it like this, not to mention the rest.

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satanttin wrote:

besides saying mathil is casual is just plain dumb cause he's not that's pretty clear to everyone.

Mathil plays EXACTLY like a casual he just runs random maps and does whatever he feels like doing. It doesnt mean he is not skilled it just means he plays the game without any real goal.


Things that make Mathils playstyle casual:

- No real deticated strat on how to farm currency (Stuff like 5ways, Logbooks, Sim/Del maps or hell even glacier farming)

- No real group or party play no real interactions with a guild to progress faster

- No real in depth crafting

- His atlas passive tree is the opposite of efficient, he uses it to juice up things he finds entertaining.

- He plays builds just to see how far he can go with them, no tailor made builds to efficiently run specific content as fast and lucrative as possible.

He just picks a random map that looks like fun to him and plays.

Like I said before theirs nothing wrong about playing like that but thats pretty much what every casual player does. The thing is somehow Mathil manages to kill bosses and get currency which is according to many on this forum impossible if you play like that.

Seriously if think Mathils playstyle (exept the time invested) is not casual you have no clue how people play this game on a none casual level. Its the equivalent of comparing random raid finder raids to first server wide raid kill guilds in WoW.

Edit:
Like someone mentioned before here in this thread, Mathil has usually 3 days played on his build before he abandones it. It means even people that have not much time can do it in 2 to 4 weeks easily.

Mathil just shows that you do not need a group, deticated strat or insane amount of time to get everything done in a league.

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50 ex is a lot think i haven't spend more than 10 on my average characters. with some of course i spend more.

50 Ex is not much, glacier farming gives you up to 10 ex an hour, logbooks and deli map farming for example give even more. You can do that solo, without any help and glacier doesnt even need a scarab just a deticated atlas tree.

Haha, Mathil? A casual player? Isn't he more or less the definition of the opposite of casual; making a living by playing, all day, every day?

What separates Mathil from the others, is that he's intentionally not choosing the path of least resistance, and does in fact pick skills others would call "bad". He also spends a very limited amount of time on each character, often less than 30 hours. But no matter how you look at it, he's far from a casual player.

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Zerber wrote:

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satanttin wrote:

besides saying mathil is casual is just plain dumb cause he's not that's pretty clear to everyone.

Mathil plays EXACTLY like a casual he just runs random maps and does whatever he feels like doing.

plays exactly like. besides the fact he plays 3/4 times as much than a normal player.

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Phrazz wrote:

Haha, Mathil? A casual player? Isn't he more or less the definition of the opposite of casual; making a living by playing, all day, every day?

What separates Mathil from the others, is that he's intentionally not choosing the path of least resistance, and does in fact pick skills others would call "bad". He also spends a very limited amount of time on each character, often less than 30 hours. But no matter how you look at it, he's far from a casual player.

The only thing that makes Mathil not casual is the time he spends on the game. Im not using casual as a slur. He plays "just for fun".

Like seriously if you think Mathils playstyle isnt casual what is group play with a deticated aura and curse bot, a MF culler and a carry for you? Compared to them or even someone that runs a single map solo with MF gear and HH for hours Mathils playstyle is the definition of "just doing things for fun and not caring about efficiency" which I would call casual.

I thought i'd heard it all but now casual has moved to anybody not running with a bitchboi, who knew :p