The challenges this league was waaaay too hard.

I've said it before, the only thing they buff with those challenges is boss farmers and TFT lol.

I've never seen a T4 harvest boss since harvest, despite doing hundreds of them over the leagues, yet they presist with this shit challenge.

Bring more fuckin challenges that can't be bought and that do not depend on insane rng, you cowards!

I don't mind that GGG tried something different this league with the challenges. However I hope they are listening to what it seems to be the vast majority of people that do not like this new direction, myself included.
I typically get 36 challenges but I know I will not get there this league. I hope GGG returns to the previous level of difficulty with their challenges.

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Vennto wrote:

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Astasia wrote:

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Vennto wrote:

while 17 are pretty doable in a reasonable amount of time

The thing you are missing is that your idea of reasonable is unreasonable. The amount of time you have already dedicated to this league is quite honestly ridiculous and beyond the ability of the vast majority of gamers. I mean I'm unemployed and have all the free time in the world and even I'm taken aback by the staggering amount of "dedication" some people appear to have for this game.

Just remember to sleep, hydrate, and hygiene. Using the same bottle for the last two doesn't count.

I would honestly love to see how much time I've dedicated to this league then and how it is unreasonable to assume that as a baseline. I can just repeat myself:

1. I did not take time off on leaguestart
2. I did take only 2 days off of work in total, while working full time
3. Im renovating my new place that I am going to move into in a few days after work sometimes
4. I was out multiple evenings meeting Friends or my GF
5. Also, no: I did not forsake personal hygiene for the sake of playing, wtf.

Like sure, I play a lot on weekends if the time allows it and after work, but I wonder: are you saying I've invested unreasonable amounts just based on my challenges or is there a way to actually check my time investment? Then I could look it up and we have a real number to argue about.

Go to each of your character that you made in this league. Type /played. If the combined time played is higher than 5 days, its already more than "reasonable".

too many RNG challenges this league

Just too hard

I think somewhere between the old structure and the current one would be a nice middle ground.

I think the EGGs this league was good. Not my favorite, but they were fine.

The alter grind was the real EGG. I hope they don't do that one again.

I bought an essence one out of RNG frustration, and one uber Elder condition because it was beyond hard with minions.

I ran Harvest nearly all league, and found two bosses. It's insane to me that running well over 1,000, maybe over 2,000 maps and two bosses was all I found while fully invested in Harvest. Please don't ever do that as a challenge again unless the boss rates are upped greatly.

As always, I welcome any and all pets as challenge rewards, I've got around 30 pets running around my hideout now.

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sumfight wrote:

The alter grind was the real EGG. I hope they don't do that one again.

I agree, that was my 40th challenge. I hit 39 challenges with 1250 altars touched, it was honestly a huge slog powerfarming maps as fast as possible to hit the remaining altars (and then wasting time on worthless Maven witnessed maps to finish it).

The challenges this league were mostly uninspired, 18 of them are related to bossing. 18! That is so boring, as the first week and a half I was gearing up to the point where I could kill ubers and all bosses quickly, and then I shot up from 6 challenges to 30 in a single play session.

That's pretty poor balancing of challenges. Completion should be much smoother, not this giant cliff until you hit a minimum gear progression to even begin knocking them out.

In the end though this has been my fastest 40/40 so I can't complain that much.

This league the challenges are very polarized.
You almost never see a player that has 20, 25 or 30 completed. It's either a single-digit number or close to maximum.

Almost half of the challenges are bossing related, so once you get a character geared enough to do those bosses you will shoot up in challenge number extremely fast.

Outside of that, I dislike challenges that are reliant on RNG that is extremely unlikely to roll in your favor.

-8 essence monster
-2 corrupted essences
-harvest boss
-div card gamble at least 4 and receive double

These are dreadful. There is no skill involved, just grind until you fucking die or give up & buy it from TFT.

1000 altars is rough as well. That challenge is much steeper grind than 10 000 map tiers that was common until recently. It's even worse than maxing out scourge crucible from 3.16 (that was very grindy too). It's demotivating to see that after putting about 150 hours into the game (mostly mapping too) I'm not even halfway through this nonsense.


And because of how these challenges are structured, if I manage to achieve 24 i might as well aim for 38 because there is not that much difference. I'm currently at 17 without touching bossing related ones (i knocked some conditions in boss challenges and managed to do sheer arrogance). If i get to bossing at some point i'll be 30+ in no time.

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Hippydolphin wrote:

If you're playing trade league the challenges are quite easy, you can buy carries from players for in game currency if you find them too difficult. I think I got 38 after 2 weeks of the league launching. The challenges can be targeted very easily with the new atlas passives, I'm sure GGG designed the challenges around the newly updated tree. The armor set is also very nice and high quality, I'd love to see more of this in the future.

This may be a radical take, but you shouldn't have to buy challenges to complete them.

There shouldn't be conditionals that require you run a specific build or avoid others.

There shouldn't be challenges that are gated behind extreme levels of RNG (ex. 8 essences).

There shouldn't be challenges which require a build most players can't feasibly afford (ex. Kill level 85 uber bosses).

These challenges seem like they'd fit right in that hard mode they're supposedly still working on.

I dont buy items and dont craft from scratch and managed to do 40/40 last league - was only 2nd time (playing since 8/2011) that i went for 40. And one other league i went for 36 for the hideout.

The 40/40 was kind of driving me to play allmost the complete league and i finally finished the 40th 2 weeks before end while playing tons of hours.
Did run >1000 maps of haunted,dig and crimson alone for the hideouts. Feared took me down 6 times before i made a new (3rd) char and beat them deathless.

This league ... i am at 11/40 and i dont see many more happen. Does not look like the uber versions are kind to me so far - so no kills there ..
Never bought a carry or exp-5ways to get a level 100 in all the years and would quit poe before i do so.

I am clearly not the target audience or even near those of craft of exile any longer and every league the game adds additional miles to run if you dont shortcut everything with TFT and trades.

Maybe all ppl that are left are fine with the warehouse-simulator poe has become (work for currency/income - and buy what you want to wear - as drops are so far outmatched by crafts - no one uses anything that dropped beside me it seems) but i still want to find stuff and kill bosses myself - else its no archivement.

I sell items so i could spent 70+ ex in my build but working for currency and buying what i want sounds like RL not a game about looting cool stuff for me.