Spell Suppression - Missing defence tag

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I don't know if its intentional or not, but spell suppression chance suffix has no defenses tag. It makes it exceptionally hard to craft items with it. Maybe its intended because of how powerful it is, but idk.

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seaman wrote:

"Defence" refers to armor, evasion, energy shield and ward.

if spell suppression is not part of defences of a character and the affix does not directly affect defences of the character, then what is it ?

even on the wiki it says defences https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Spell_Suppression

It is a defense but then resists and block and life should have the defense tag since those are part of our defenses as well.

But it is an important distinction that it is not part of the 4 things the game considers defenses or else things like skin of the loyals "100% increased global defenses" would be quite overpowered.

Also the wiki says "layer of defense". If you go to the actual defenses page spell suppression is nowhere to be found.

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gladiatorpie wrote:

It is a defense but then resists and block and life should have the defense tag since those are part of our defenses as well.

But it is an important distinction that it is not part of the 4 things the game considers defenses or else things like skin of the loyals "100% increased global defenses" would be quite overpowered.

Also the wiki says "layer of defense". If you go to the actual defenses page spell suppression is nowhere to be found.

I would argue that its the mechanical analog/counterpart to how armour works with physical hits and that it only makes sense to have a defence tag, if only for crafting purposes

When spell suppression rolls on armor in place of the other defenses ill agree with you.

They wont change it just to make it easier to craft.

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gladiatorpie wrote:

When spell suppression rolls on armor in place of the other defenses ill agree with you.

They wont change it just to make it easier to craft.

i'd say that armour is required on a str based melee character. that gear can be target crafted.

if you're a dex based, evasion based character you absolutely need spell suppression due to the loss of dodge. that gear cannot be targeted and the weightings are low. to get 97% suppression from tree you need to invest 19 points for the nodes alone aswell as the pathing nodes.

its part of defences and imho it should have the tag just for consistency of the matter. in regards to your argument that resistances are defences aswell: resistances have the resistance,elemental and fire/cold/lightning tag and are able to be targeted that way, spell suppression however is not and yet it is part of dex based characters defences.

The ingame wording of Defence is for ES Armour and Evasion


Just like Attribute (capital A)

We know res and block and dodge and damage taken as are defensive layer, but please just accept how the dev design the game

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neohongkong wrote:

The ingame wording of Defence is for ES Armour and Evasion


Just like Attribute (capital A)

We know res and block and dodge and damage taken as are defensive layer, but please just accept how the dev design the game

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Distance
there currently are a bunch of definitions for nearby.

there is no absolute consistency in "how the dev design the game" and the only way to settle things like affix tags is to talk about it. there was an affix tag rework after harvest but alot of tags were left out and the whole system remains unfinished to this day.

Why do block / recoup / spell suppression have no defence tag? They are clearly affixes that affect defence. Would adding tags to them make it too easy to craft ?
Can new tags, harvest crafts and fossils be introduced to balance the crafting cost of these affixes?

idk man, at the end of the day it seems to be just inconsistent and done on a per-affix basis for balancing.

if thats the case i'd argue that spell suppression gear is significantly harder to craft than block or recoup and therefore the weighting needs to be adjusted or tags added to make crafting balanced