Vorici stealth nerfed

My samples are low, but yes, it "looks" as if vorici was nerfed, 5 Voricity t4 = 1 white at all.
Last edited by kenbak#5806 on Feb 22, 2022, 6:09:08 AM
Nah looks like it was stealth buffed. I watched a clip of Zizaran getting 5 white sockets on a 6 link first try. I saw it happen once so my perception of the RNG involved must be correct.
When in doubt blame the stealth nerf.
-Official Forum Dweller-
-I started the hoho movement-
-Exploit Early - Exploit Often-
-Lost 10%? There goes my week-
-Heist Enjoyer-
The problem with posts like this is that they only portrait a very bad streak. I highly doubt you made any data-collection on your last leagues, as it went "normally", whatever the rate may be for that. And as long we actually don´t know the base value all assumptions are just pure guessing anyway.
"
xPiranha wrote:
When in doubt blame the stealth nerf.


There isn't starting to be much doubt about many of these things now. I made a similar thread on Reddit about something else, and some crazy fanatics came and defended their wrong belief that there can't have been a stealth nerf, without them having any data whatsoever, and they are now starting to make themselves look like fools.
Last edited by DeepAlchemist#7721 on Feb 22, 2022, 9:55:02 AM
"
Astasia wrote:
Nah looks like it was stealth buffed. I watched a clip of Zizaran getting 5 white sockets on a 6 link first try. I saw it happen once so my perception of the RNG involved must be correct.


You have 1 sample. The thread poster has multiple. Of course some people may still be getting a 5 white sockets, doesn't mean they still didn't nerf it.

Your data sample is actually a lot less reliable than thread poster, since you seem to be relying on 1 instance of it happening. So, if some information would need to be discredited if any, it would be yours, more than the topic poster.

In reality though, your data may still have value, and could be added to the data sample pool.
Last edited by DeepAlchemist#7721 on Feb 22, 2022, 9:57:59 AM
"
Vennto wrote:
The problem with posts like this is that they only portrait a very bad streak. I highly doubt you made any data-collection on your last leagues, as it went "normally", whatever the rate may be for that. And as long we actually don´t know the base value all assumptions are just pure guessing anyway.


"
xPiranha wrote:
When in doubt blame the stealth nerf.


There is starting to be a lot less doubt about some of these things now. I made a similar thread on Reddit about some other stealth nerfs regarding Cemetery, and some crazy fanatics came and defended their wrong belief that there can't have been a stealth nerf, without them having any data whatsoever, and they are now starting to make themselves look like fools.

I even have spreadsheets and stuff, and also there was another thread about someone having ran 1k+ Mao Kun, and not getting much drops this league with a sample of 250+.

It really looks like there has been stealth nerfs, and it's starting to be backed up by a decent amount of data.

Also, I have been reading these forums, and this is the first time we're seeing something reports like this happening, backed by actual numbers, so this is starting to be more than just assumptions here.
"
DeepAlchemist wrote:
"
Vennto wrote:
The problem with posts like this is that they only portrait a very bad streak. I highly doubt you made any data-collection on your last leagues, as it went "normally", whatever the rate may be for that. And as long we actually don´t know the base value all assumptions are just pure guessing anyway.


"
xPiranha wrote:
When in doubt blame the stealth nerf.


There is starting to be a lot less doubt about some of these things now. I made a similar thread on Reddit about some other stealth nerfs regarding Cemetery, and some crazy fanatics came and defended their wrong belief that there can't have been a stealth nerf, without them having any data whatsoever, and they are now starting to make themselves look like fools.

I even have spreadsheets and stuff, and also there was another thread about someone having ran 1k+ Mao Kun, and not getting much drops this league with a sample of 250+.

It really looks like there has been stealth nerfs, and it's starting to be backed up by a decent amount of data.

Also, I have been reading these forums, and this is the first time we're seeing something reports like this happening, backed by actual numbers, so this is starting to be more than just assumptions here.

You are missing my point completely.

I do not doubt the data of the 25 catarinas/setups he did with the bad streak. But if you want to compare two different situations you need data on both, not only on the on the assumably bad streak.

Running 1k Mao Kun now and saying "well I did not get good drops therefore stealth nerf" is garbage if you do not have valid numbers on the runs BEFORE the assumed date of the nerf. If you have both numbers you can even do a statistical test to see if the changes are within expected ranges of variance or if there is significant evidence that changes have been made. But I NEED NUMBERS, not guesses.
Running 250 maps, its starting to be significant enough to start noticing a change, and definitely not "garbage".

Last edited by DeepAlchemist#7721 on Feb 22, 2022, 10:28:36 AM
"
DeepAlchemist wrote:
Running 250 maps, its starting to be significant enough to start noticing a change, and definitely not "garbage".


I can only answer to what I am seeing here, as I am not on reddit. And if this is the case, you surely can link to it? I´d like to have a look at the data then.

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info