13c Ritual mode ? Is Ritual good ?

Definetly not worth 13c price. Rituals were nerfed twice since 3.13. Rewards (both as simple farm and vessels juced) and number of altars (from 5 to 4).

In 3.17 one more already confirmed by Chris nerf: with removal of unique +1 monster level watchstones no more 85+ level blizzard crowns (big chunk of profit).

Unless some significant buffs from new atlas tree are coming, rituals are noob trap now.
Ritual was a staple when I was running T19s, but I usually got the blood-filled vessel for 10-12c. I'm not sure it's worth it at T16, though I'm sure I'm wrong since I'm not the best at building wealth.
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Did you all miss the part where Chris Wilson himself said that you'll have a guaranteed 4 altar ritual passive on atlas tree? And do you think it's the only passive related to ritual? I can bet that there's another which gives better rewards from rituals and yet another that allows 2 rerolls.
Along with small nodes like increase of ritual points from ritual monsters. With 4 altars it becomes very profitable.
Last edited by alex_disp#4958 on Jan 29, 2022, 5:41:25 PM
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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:
Ritual is actually 30C good, it's absolutely and totally worth it.

Source: I make a lot of currency every league with T18 60% deli Rituals.



unique +1 level watchstones are gone. so... glwt
Hmm wasn't there a passive shown in the presentation that reads "+2 rerolls" ? I think I saw that somewhere indeed.

Noob question : what are T17 18 19 maps exactly ?
Considering higher ones are T16..
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Last edited by fistoz#4798 on Jan 29, 2022, 6:05:37 PM
There are watchstones that raise the area lvl of a map thus have higher itemlvl drops this includes what you get from ritual and boxes.
You could have 3 of those max hence the t17-t19.

we are losing those now so no more high itemlvl ritual bases.
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Last edited by jackof8lades#6863 on Jan 29, 2022, 6:27:54 PM
13c is a lot. Is it worth it? Depends on the atlas passives.
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Thror2k5 wrote:
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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:
Ritual is actually 30C good, it's absolutely and totally worth it.

Source: I make a lot of currency every league with T18 60% deli Rituals.



unique +1 level watchstones are gone. so... glwt


Farming i85 bases was a very small part of Rituals.

95% of the profit comes from rerolling and juicing them. 20C juice without a vessel at T16 gives you max rerolls which is what you should aim for.
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Last edited by Kiss_Me_Quick#4554 on Jan 29, 2022, 7:00:44 PM
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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Farming i85 bases was a very small part of Rituals.

95% of the profit comes from rerolling and juicing them. 20C juice without a vessel at T16 gives you max rerolls which is what you should aim for.

It's just straight up wrong statement. Whole profit coming from vessel filling, which comes from mirror gambling. Actually general profit from ritual now so poor that even lucky headhunter can't return investments. Only mirrors and mirror tier items.

Here some dude complete 500 full vessel maps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVQBlguD2DY and without lucky mirror drop whole strat is just money loss
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GF63YUm0OzWmPwEqD614IDQ09wH3jFa7tqrEnHYn8Fs/edit#gid=0
From 500 maps without mirror drop he got 228Ex turnover and five crowns. He didn't use +level watchstones (too lazy for trade). But if he will, its ~50c for 12 uses, or 12.25Ex of additional investment. And 85+Ilvl crown worth 20Ex, and you can(must) split it.

As you can see high level bases were almost half of ritual profit. GGG once again broke some interesting interaction created by players. Nerf players power and income simultaneously. Waste somebody's time by interaction with dead unbalanced mechanic. And lose some players.
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shadow_rps wrote:
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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Farming i85 bases was a very small part of Rituals.

95% of the profit comes from rerolling and juicing them. 20C juice without a vessel at T16 gives you max rerolls which is what you should aim for.

It's just straight up wrong statement. Whole profit coming from vessel filling, which comes from mirror gambling. Actually general profit from ritual now so poor that even lucky headhunter can't return investments. Only mirrors and mirror tier items.

Here some dude complete 500 full vessel maps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVQBlguD2DY and without lucky mirror drop whole strat is just money loss
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GF63YUm0OzWmPwEqD614IDQ09wH3jFa7tqrEnHYn8Fs/edit#gid=0
From 500 maps without mirror drop he got 228Ex turnover and five crowns. He didn't use +level watchstones (too lazy for trade). But if he will, its ~50c for 12 uses, or 12.25Ex of additional investment. And 85+Ilvl crown worth 20Ex, and you can(must) split it.

As you can see high level bases were almost half of ritual profit. GGG once again broke some interesting interaction created by players. Nerf players power and income simultaneously. Waste somebody's time by interaction with dead unbalanced mechanic. And lose some players.

What makes you think that there will be no atlas passives that raise monster level on maps? Or rare sextant mods that do that?
Last edited by alex_disp#4958 on Jan 29, 2022, 8:40:21 PM

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