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MrSparkle001 wrote:
Remember when you could watch shows (mediocre ones, but they were there) for free on your TV?.
??? I buy a $15 Amazon antenna and I get like 80 channels, it's never been easier
anyway why are loot boxes the government's problem again?
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Posted byImaginaerum#5568on Jan 14, 2022, 2:08:38 PM
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Imaginaerum wrote:
??? I buy a $15 Amazon antenna and I get like 80 channels, it's never been easier
anyway why are loot boxes the government's problem again?
Because it's gambling which is highly regulated, no matter how the game publishers try to spin it.
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Posted byMrSparkle001#1624on Jan 14, 2022, 3:53:58 PM
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MrSparkle001 wrote:
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Imaginaerum wrote:
??? I buy a $15 Amazon antenna and I get like 80 channels, it's never been easier
anyway why are loot boxes the government's problem again?
Because it's gambling which is highly regulated, no matter how the game publishers try to spin it.
Gambling isn't nearly as highly regulated as it was 15 years ago, which is exactly why you see a slot machine "Video Gaming" section in every single Gas Station, Restaurant, and traffic depot now. The US highly de-regulated Gacha and slots, because they don't conform to all three common definitions of information averse gambling.
There's a reason why when people like you keep talking about it being illegal, that game companies keep winning their cases, and even opening new loopholes that judges approve of, the more you try to push that agenda.
We're no longer in the era of "Dungeons and Dragons corrupt our children," or "Gambling destroyed my husband."
We're in the era of personal accountability.
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Posted byrekikyo#7718on Jan 15, 2022, 4:14:48 AM
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rekikyo wrote:
Gambling isn't nearly as highly regulated as it was 15 years ago, which is exactly why you see a slot machine "Video Gaming" section in every single Gas Station, Restaurant, and traffic depot now. The US highly de-regulated Gacha and slots, because they don't conform to all three common definitions of information averse gambling.
There's a reason why when people like you keep talking about it being illegal, that game companies keep winning their cases, and even opening new loopholes that judges approve of, the more you try to push that agenda.
We're no longer in the era of "Dungeons and Dragons corrupt our children," or "Gambling destroyed my husband."
We're in the era of personal accountability.
Don't know where you live but you can't have slot machines in a gas station, restuarant, or traffic depot here. Totally illegal.
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Posted byMrSparkle001#1624on Jan 17, 2022, 9:17:30 AM
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Wow thats awesome.
thx for share this.
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Posted bySMOKALOT#5975on Jan 18, 2022, 5:48:14 PM
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vio wrote:
i still think ggg could charge 30$ for a temp league and people would play it.
having permanent leagues free of charge, the game could still claim to be free to play. you can still fight every boss and access every area of the game without paying money.
as a result, they could give away decorational mtx as ingame rewards.
and there could also be discounts for those who already kept the game alive over the years.
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it could also end ggg's weird idea of mixing up the incompatible concepts of "supporting the game to get some good looking mtx" and "gambling to win the same mtx".
"incompatible", because it punishes those who want to support the game without gambling.
With premises though. The league must be tested and run rather smoothly, and delivered as advertised. The current POE leagues do not meet that standard. I believe if every league charges people $30 to enter, at least 50% of frequent players will straight up not play the game.
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Posted bycolossalaiur#6496on Jan 18, 2022, 6:06:13 PM
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MrSparkle001 wrote:
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Imaginaerum wrote:
??? I buy a $15 Amazon antenna and I get like 80 channels, it's never been easier
anyway why are loot boxes the government's problem again?
Because it's gambling which is highly regulated, no matter how the game publishers try to spin it.
It actually depends on the legal definition of gambling.
For example a typical definition
Gambling: play games of chance for money
The loot boxes are not money therefore it is not legally considered gambling. Now, I quickly add that many would consider it gambling or at least about as close as one could get without crossing the legal line.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Posted byTurtledove#4014on Jan 18, 2022, 9:17:47 PM
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Turtledove wrote:
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MrSparkle001 wrote:
Because it's gambling which is highly regulated, no matter how the game publishers try to spin it.
It actually depends on the legal definition of gambling.
For example a typical definition
Gambling: play games of chance for money
The loot boxes are not money therefore it is not legally considered gambling. Now, I quickly add that many would consider it gambling or at least about as close as one could get without crossing the legal line.
You're both wrong. They're not gambling, they're Surprise Mechanics. Checkmate!
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Posted byExile009#1139on Jan 19, 2022, 2:48:53 AMOn Probation
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Turtledove wrote:
The loot boxes are not money
well, given that i just want to look different in the game, for any any item i get for 3$ i don't have to spend 20$++. real money saved is still real money.
but i don't think nz will ban loot boxes anytime soon.
age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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Posted byvio#1992on Jan 19, 2022, 3:27:15 AMAlpha Member
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Exile009 wrote:
You're both wrong. They're not gambling, they're Surprise Mechanics. Checkmate!
Lol I remember that. Was it EA that claimed that? Trying to get around regulations some places in Europe were enacting?
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Posted byMrSparkle001#1624on Jan 19, 2022, 8:47:06 AM
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