Vaal pyramid boss fight is very very over tuned

So I've been waltzing through tier 10-12 maps with ease, killed all conquerors without problems, then one conqueror fight is in Vaal pyramid. I ran the map white (no modifiers) and lost all remaining 5 portals in the boss fight before the conqueror and thus failed the conqueror cycle. To me it doesn't make much sense that the Vaal pyramid boss fight is much harder than the conqueror fights. The mini bosses in the last room Vaal pyramid deal massive amount of unavoidable damage and therefore are not in line with other content in maps. RIP Exp.

EDIT: Vaal pyramid

Vaal Temple has been a troll map ever since I can remember.

It's virtually impossible to do without dying on certain map modifiers.
It's been like that forever. No idea why. I just avoid it.

this is a fight you need to study and then kill the 3 bosses in the right order

There isn't some super special secret about the fight.
You kill the Rain of arrows one then the dual strike and cleave / cyclone character.

The troll part of the encounter. Before you kill anything you're dealing with pure physical massive spells damage, Ignites, corrupted blood, Bleed stacks, massive ground chaos degen.

Start adding the right map mods and you can die before you even get to attack them.

Every 8-mod deathless kill I've seen on them if off-screen.

Wait, are we talking about Vaal Temple or Vaal Pyramid?

Because I know OP said Temple, but they're talking about T10-12 maps which makes no sense as a comparison.

Oh well, unlucky I guess. Vaal temple is indeed one of the hardest maps I can remember, and if it weren't for a lvl 97 friend I wouldn't have passed this map ever.

You're level 89 with 3.7k hp and bad defenses. This isn't the map's fault.

I'll grant that this map is a bit harder than standard maps but hardly in the realm of "very very over tuned".

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Aderahl wrote:

You're level 89 with 3.7k hp and bad defenses. This isn't the map's fault.

I'll grant that this map is a bit harder than standard maps but hardly in the realm of "very very over tuned".

While I appreciate your answer you missed the point. My character here is irrelevant because the map is not line with other similar content. In my 2,5 hour session I only really died in Vaal Pyramid and 5 of them in the boss room. This has nothing to do with my character (while I agree that the defenses are not good) but the map is not in line with other similar tier maps.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

Wait, are we talking about Vaal Temple or Vaal Pyramid?

Because I know OP said Temple, but they're talking about T10-12 maps which makes no sense as a comparison.

Thanks for pointing it out, the map is indeed Vaal Pyramid. Corrected my post and topic.

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Xzorn wrote:

Vaal Temple has been a troll map ever since I can remember.

It's virtually impossible to do without dying on certain map modifiers.
It's been like that forever. No idea why. I just avoid it.

I heavily dislike the idea that I need to avoid a certain map, but I guess that's how it's going to be. The map I died 5 times in the boss room was with no modifiers because I knew the fight is difficult. My character is squishy and because there is a lot of unavoidable damage coming in I guess there is no other choice.

Today Conqueror cycle maps went deathless, died to Baran once (AL7) and the following two 6-way Maven invitations went deathless. So it's only the unavoidable damage that kills me.