Gladiator Spell Block Hard Nerf

Isn't the nerf on spell block to gladiator a bit too hard? It was completely removed from the ascension tree and you can't replace it with spell dodge as it no longer exists. In exchange, there is the versatile combatant keystone, but -25% to maximum block chances is a high price as it leaves you with around a 60%-65% maximum block chance and the investment is just as high since you need at least 30% of extra attack block chance to reach the cap on spell block.
This means that either you have no means of avoiding spell damage (besides resistances and armor) or you have to sacrifice a lot of other stats to be able to defend against them.
None of these options are suitable for a build revolving around blocking and it may have as a consequence for said builds to not be viable on the new league which would be a shame.
I Hope GGG finds a way to balance this in a better way, perhaps reintroduce it on the ascendancy tree or a new option on the block mastery, but the last would mean a need to add more block mastery nodes on the tree as they also removed commandment of steel ability to grant damage.

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Prionexe wrote:

Isn't the nerf on spell block to gladiator a bit too hard? It was completely removed from the ascension tree and you can't replace it with spell dodge as it no longer exists. In exchange, there is the versatile combatant keystone, but -25% to maximum block chances is a high price as it leaves you with around a 60%-65% maximum block chance and the investment is just as high since you need at least 30% of extra attack block chance to reach the cap on spell block.
This means that either you have no means of avoiding spell damage (besides resistances and armor) or you have to sacrifice a lot of other stats to be able to defend against them.
None of these options are suitable for a build revolving around blocking and it may have as a consequence for said builds to not be viable on the new league which would be a shame.
I Hope GGG finds a way to balance this in a better way, perhaps reintroduce it on the ascendancy tree or a new option on the block mastery, but the last would mean a need to add more block mastery nodes on the tree as they also removed commandment of steel ability to grant damage.

we got the most broken spell dmg counter we ever had thing league

its called spell suppression and can be stacked up to 100% and it will reduced the taken spell dmg by 50%
there is a keystone to convert suppression to spelldodge as well

you can go for + max resi as well, every point above the normal 75% will reduced the remaining dmg you take from elemental spells by atleast 4%

If you take VC keystone, at best with some crazy investment you will get to 60/50, which is a big joke.

As i said multiple time already RIP.
And even more RIP on every one like me that was playing any ele. conversion ....

ciel289, why you not show us on a tree how you make this one work out ?
Did you even understand that you get literally close to 0 from the Ascendancy ?
Even with the new Ascendancy, DPS is crap.
You understand what gear and how much you need to invest into DPS to make it to even 2mln. of DPS?

But all i see from you in every single thread is defending every single ridiculous POE decision they have made.
You are so so much biased, it's unreal.

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RoyalMarauder wrote:

As i said multiple time already RIP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/qapk7t/duelist_72_attack_block_chance_in_29_points_using/

How about this? Still "dead" i presume, hehe.

For the early game (acts) is alright but there is still no spell block, it consumes some mastery points u want to use on other things later, late-game u don't use 30% block chance shields so it decays fast while mapping.

Have been screwing around a bit with the tree and u can get around 45%-50% spell block without using VC keystone but it requires major investment.
If we take into account tempest shield it would be enough to have some spell block on the ascendancy tree.
I think that giving half of attack block as extra spell block or 20%-30% of spell block distributed along the ascendancy tree pasive skills would be enough to make shield builds viable in late game.

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dW2005 wrote:

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RoyalMarauder wrote:

As i said multiple time already RIP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/qapk7t/duelist_72_attack_block_chance_in_29_points_using/

How about this? Still "dead" i presume, hehe.

He is most probably using the Surrender, which gives 33/3(for some reason for me on POB) Block Chance.
Also he is spending 30 passive points for just to get the Block Chance to 75, and spell Chance is at 0.

With VC, you are at 30 spend passive points, pretty much and you go down to 50/50, and cannot move from there, unless you get the Reigning Veteran from the Ascendancy.
And you just don't have much option from the Ascendancy. Arena Challenger and Outmatch and Outlast are pure crap, and you have the Bleeding ones, which are forcing you to play Bleed, which was nerfed big time in 3.15, and the DPS is low .....

And you realize everyone can get this points on the tree? Rider can get them, Marauder can get them without much trouble as well. Scion as well.

Versatile Combatant is just not worth it, and your best bet is to max the Attack Block Chance and stay with that.

And btw this 30 passives points from the tree are not for FREE.

As far as Tempest Shield, it takes 25% of your mana, that was already cut.
Even with the very pricey amu for the Pride reservation, you are going to miss on a lot of auras, to get 1/10 of what you had before, and on top of that Flesh and Stone has been nerfed.

And btw:
Just what i mean:
zixav
"As there is no mastery selected at all, you can go for Riders 40% spell avoidance, get some more with evasion and take that block nodes. No need for 90% block when you can have 75 block + evasion + new Spell Dodge."

And 1 more:
Kypron
"Yeah, using the sword cluster on the right. If you pick Raider, you can pick up Quickstep on the way to the sword cluster, the Inveterate cluster a little further up, the Entrench nodes on the way to the Block nodes south, and Quartz Infusion on the Raider Ascendency tree, putting you at 101% Spell Suppression on top of Block Cap, for a total of 45 points."



Should i explain you how much more DPS you will get playing Rider, compare to Gladiator ? And on top of that you will have better even way better defense ....
Yeah talk now about Gladiator.

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ciel289 wrote:

we got the most broken spell dmg counter we ever had thing league
its called spell suppression and can be stacked up to 100% and it will reduced the taken spell dmg by 50%
there is a keystone to convert suppression to spelldodge as well
you can go for + max resi as well, every point above the normal 75% will reduced the remaining dmg you take from elemental spells by atleast 4%

You took away my spell block, and I need to spend more than 30+ additional passives points to get back my spell block. It's not a joke, it is trash.

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RoyalMarauder wrote:

Should i explain you how much more DPS you will get playing Rider, compare to Gladiator ? And on top of that you will have better even way better defense ....
Yeah talk now about Gladiator.

No need, let's see what SSFHC people will be playing.

Gladiator Ascendancy is now dead in HC as a cold fish. Even "Steelmage abandons his staple Gladiator HC SSF":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF7QZxeBTbA&t=77s

Something is very wrong when Scion Ascendant can cap atack/spell block easily with offerings, but this is almost impossible (mainly in terms of viability) for Gladiator. You can try Low-life max block Gladiator with Herald of Agony and Daresso's Courage, but good luck with DPS!
We need additional sources of spell block for Gladiator.

P.S. Quin was hilarious!

Of course, we don't have 100% working POB, but so far I'm finding Glad's rework very strange. I can no longer see ANY advantage in using it (ATM).

Currently I can have 87 block attack with my glad, but I can switch to Berserker and have 71 block attack with DOUBLE DPS, Divine Flesh and 78 res.

I don't know what to say, it doesn't make sense...