Tried 3 builds, unplayable game

1. CoC Ice Nova: Was ok, not enough boss damage. Can't do endgame. Spent too much for mana cost reduction.
2. Winter Orb full shaper Eternity Shroud: Not enough boss damage, chaos resistant ignore not working (bugged). Too expensive for what it does. Litteraly not working anymore.
3. Discharge Ignite. Not enough damage to do endgame bosses. One shots from random things more often than before. Nerfed Trigger on cast. Mobs have too much resist even with elemental equilibrum.

Every each of those builds was getting 1-shot from random mob in game.
Your game is fucking horrible. It was good 2-3 seasons before. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH IT FFS?
I've invested at least 30 exalted orbs in every build mentioned above.
I'm not casual. I'm average player. GOOD BYE. [Removed by Support] The game is playable, but not enjoyable anymore.

theres 2 sides to this, one is playing 3 builds that were all arguably nerfed really hard since their peak, more so than the majority of skills out there. those skills were super meta, now theyre kind of dumpstered to some extent.

worth noting ggg thinks theyve just balanced them, nugi challenged chris on this in the baeclast podcast and very firmly said to him you are still killing builds and playstlyes, youre not nerfing into a reasonable place, you are killing stuff.

ive not played these skills, ive not played stuff thats been killed, i cant comment on their balance but i know they all got hit big time since their peak meta state and i trust nugi not to say a thing like that without it having merit.





the second, this 1 shotting... man, the day i have had with getting blown up, offscreen fked, cant see whats going on, dont know what killed me, ive died more times today trying a few different builds than i have died in the last 6 months on builds i would normally play. im not gonna lie, it made it actually angry and i was left shouting at my screen for ggg to fix their fucking bullshit 1 shot offscreen boom on death cant even see whats going on rhoas charging me from narnia broken bloody game lololol, i went full tilt, it was maddening how absolutely bullshit beyond bullshit busted some of this crap was xD


ive steamed off since, were off the boil now, but holy hell. try playing the game with a build that isnt huge avoidance + huge damage reduction or insane hp pool and I cant even get xp, 10k es + 7k evasion + blinding everything... no, apparently shit tier defences that die in a second to crap i cant even see in 1 damage mod t12 maps... da fuk is this? no wonder people who dont play builds with the insane defences i usually stack are all playing totems, summons, dots etc and theyre running around with 3,800 life, because even if they have 8,000 life they die instantly so its better to have 3,800 and hope the extra damage kills everything before it can touch you.

i cant blame you for your anger, the 1 shot + on death effect clownshow of what red maps has become needs urgent fixing, its actually out of control on levels i didnt even realise til today, i knew it was bad but i didnt realise it was THIS bad.

3.9 patch that trippled endgame bosses hp was the first hit, but it was compensated by some new toys like cluster jewels, influenced mods, elevated mods, harvest crafting, but now, unless they will bring huge amount of new sources of power in 3.16, the situation is and will remain fucked up.

with 3.15 nerfs, 90% of builds are unviable in the endgame at the moment (without the levels of investment that are unaffordable by any sane players). the situation will not change until the nerfs to support gems will be fully reverted. but, from what i've heard from baeclast and the second interview with ggg ceo, they will not change that. well, then they should get use to new reality where they have 30% less revenue, and, perhaps, this is just the beginning.

i would advice not playing and supporting them until they will understand their position and what customers aka players want.

Zizaran said it is all about block and dodge. Evasion, ward and to a lesser extent armour is in a bad spot.

Nonetheless if the stars align when it comes to map mods and monster mods, enemies will do a metric ton of damage. You'll die repeatedly and it seems that is all according to plan.

personally i think evasion is still rly strong if you can get enough of it, but yeah i kind of agree with him in terms of needing some form of avoiding a ton of damage, be it blocking, dodging or evading. I always play with those sort of defences along with either big hp pool or big phys damage reduction and the game feels sort of fine most of the time. i dont feel too immortal and i dont feel too squishy.


i dunno how anyone is playing energy shield builds right now without big evasion or block, i guess big zealot regen if the es levels are sky high might be working too. but just es along with a little bit of other defences? christ... im sure if youre summons or totems hanging out in a different room to where everythings dying its mostly fine and you only get 1 shot a couple of times a day. if you have to actually stand still and dish out damage like a regular self cast spell spammer with say 2 million dps? i dunno how youre playing the game, seriously, i have no idea how youre gaining xp faster than youre losing it in t16 maps.

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5484789 wrote:

The game is playable, but not enjoyable anymore.

That pretty much sums it up right there.

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Reinhart wrote:

Zizaran said it is all about block and dodge. Evasion, ward and to a lesser extent armour is in a bad spot.

Then we can expect to see nerfs to block and dodge very soon.

Mathil disagrees xD

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Tainted_Fate wrote:

....90% of builds are unviable in the endgame at the moment (without the levels of investment that are unaffordable by any sane players).

Hyperbole. The true native language of the internet.

You can work your way through all your acendencies, hit level 90+, and clear through T-16 maps with under 10ex in gear - 2ex or 3ex if you know what you're doing.

Killing the super-bosses on the other hand, is intended to be hard. A challenge that requires investment of time, understanding of the mechanics and plenty of currency dumped into your character's gear.

Everybody wants a trophy. But if it's too easy to get, the trophy means nothing.

Some games are not trying to maximize "accessibility." [Removed by Support]

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

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Tainted_Fate wrote:

....90% of builds are unviable in the endgame at the moment (without the levels of investment that are unaffordable by any sane players).

Hyperbole. The true native language of the internet.

You can work your way through all your acendencies, hit level 90+, and clear through T-16 maps with under 10ex in gear - 2ex or 3ex if you know what you're doing.

Killing the super-bosses on the other hand, is intended to be hard. A challenge that requires investment of time, understanding of the mechanics and plenty of currency dumped into your character's gear.

Everybody wants a trophy. But if it's too easy to get, the trophy means nothing.

Some games are not trying to maximize "accessibility." [Removed by Support]

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@Sabranic_SilverDeth Btw if you like the game so much, good for you! Go and play it. Why go on the entire forum trying to convince others that their experience of game is wrong or GGG is right in their approach or some version of it.

Cheers