I Challenge Chris Wilson To Actually Play His Own Game!

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V3n05 wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

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Haqutta wrote:

I believe Chris Wilson's role as CEO of GGG, along with any social/family life he may have, limits his play time that would put him on par with a significant portion of the player base. Therefore, I challenge Chris Wilson to actually play the next league (at least 6 weeks) as much as he can while balancing his work and social/family life. What will be Chris Wilson's experience be against often repeated design goals of being challenging, rewarding, and fun? What will Chris Wilson be able to achieve? Will he even see a Maven fight? Will he be able to create a build, given the limited time he has available, capable of achieving anything of substance?

I think it is time Chris Wilson gets out of receive mode, where he relies too heavily on feedback, either internally, from streamers, or the community as a whole. Play the game Chris Wilson. Ask yourself, "Was that fun? Is that the gaming experience you want your player base to have?" I think you will be disappointed in your experience, but I could be wrong. Take the challenge and make me eat my words. Tell me you loved it, found it appropriately challenging and rewarding, and that perhaps POE isn't for me. I will even reply to your post and acknowledge I was wrong and take the community flogging for making such a challenge.

he doesnt want what we want
he wants masochist mode
most of us dont

So what if Chris wants masochist mode? Big whoop. Are you complaining about all the players who went SSF, HC, SSFHC, or Battle Royale?

What other people enjoy doesn't affect what you get to play or enjoy.

Or, you just simply didn't understand Chris on Baeclast, (if you even watched it), and automatically assume that's what he wants for the game and players, in which case you're wrong

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Phrazz wrote:

As I see it, PoE is a little bit too dependant on gear, while D2 fits into the other end of the scale.

For a lot of people, progressing your character to do harder content - to get better gear - to keep progressing your character, is key in games like this. Progression is really the bread and butter of ARPG's, but the game should push/encourage you to always improve your gear.

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V3n05 wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

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Haqutta wrote:

I believe Chris Wilson's role as CEO of GGG, along with any social/family life he may have, limits his play time that would put him on par with a significant portion of the player base. Therefore, I challenge Chris Wilson to actually play the next league (at least 6 weeks) as much as he can while balancing his work and social/family life. What will be Chris Wilson's experience be against often repeated design goals of being challenging, rewarding, and fun? What will Chris Wilson be able to achieve? Will he even see a Maven fight? Will he be able to create a build, given the limited time he has available, capable of achieving anything of substance?

I think it is time Chris Wilson gets out of receive mode, where he relies too heavily on feedback, either internally, from streamers, or the community as a whole. Play the game Chris Wilson. Ask yourself, "Was that fun? Is that the gaming experience you want your player base to have?" I think you will be disappointed in your experience, but I could be wrong. Take the challenge and make me eat my words. Tell me you loved it, found it appropriately challenging and rewarding, and that perhaps POE isn't for me. I will even reply to your post and acknowledge I was wrong and take the community flogging for making such a challenge.

he doesnt want what we want
he wants masochist mode
most of us dont

So what if Chris wants masochist mode? Big whoop. Are you complaining about all the players who went SSF, HC, SSFHC, or Battle Royale?

What other people enjoy doesn't affect what you get to play or enjoy.

Or, you just simply didn't understand Chris on Baeclast, (if you even watched it), and automatically assume that's what he wants for the game and players, in which case you're wrong

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SpacePilot3000 wrote:

While PoE have content which requires gear it missing the part where you getting gear to progress, like you farming one area to get to another, more hard area which can drop upgrades to push further. Not counting Quarry of course which got nerfed every now and then.

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Phrazz wrote:

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SpacePilot3000 wrote:

While PoE have content which requires gear it missing the part where you getting gear to progress, like you farming one area to get to another, more hard area which can drop upgrades to push further. Not counting Quarry of course which got nerfed every now and then.

I think i have around 3000 hours in D2:LoD, and I think a lot of people have an overly romantic view on the gear progression. I'm not saying it isn't better than the current progression void in PoE, transitioning from yellow maps to reds, but...

We're comparing apples to donkeys here. While most "runs" in D2 were defined within the story mode, even though we're talking about the "third difficulty", we're comparing it to PoE's endgame. And PoE's endgame is designed to be a grind, it's designed to be "open", in contrast to D2's "endgame", that cosists of a couple of scenarios/runs.

Does PoE lack a better deterministic approach? Maybe. Can PoE's gear progression mid-to-late maps be better? Arguably. Should the quality of drops in PoE be increased? Most definitely, and as far as I know, they are working on the latter, which may help the other points too.

But in regards to D2, doing low-level content over and over and over again, as people did with Quarry in other leagues, is not my idea of a good nor interesting approach to gear progression. I always HATE the idea of doing Quarry runs can even compete with doing similar content closer to your level.

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RitualMurder wrote:

quarry runs got dumpstered this league

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Phrazz wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

quarry runs got dumpstered this league

"...as people did with Quarry in other leagues

I'm well aware of that, which I view as a very good thing.

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Jerle wrote:

Chris is no longer a programmer in the context of GGG. He is a senior decision maker - the ultimate one where the buck stops. So there is some sense in what the guy is saying even if it isn't entirely accurate - there is definitely the perception that Chris is putting more resources in generating more mtx than trying to improve aspects of the game that has been complained about for years.