Impale Builds Starting To Advise Against Using Impale Support?

I know league is still in its early start and people are still figuring stuff out, but the early verdict appears to be that Impale Support is a wasted slot in your 6L at the moment?

It was nerfed 3 ways from Sunday in 3.15 and got a slight impale chance buff (that's not even needed) so the few videos and guides I've been reading are saying to just not use it anymore, lol?

If this is true then I hope GGG takes another look at the support gem because when an impale build suggests to not Impale Support something has to be off there with the nerf bat.

all it does is impale chance so if you can reach 100% without you are better doing just that.

If you need the full 60% from the gem though I can't see a build not taking it, impale is still the best phys damage scaler.

You most likely have to use that gem for 1 handed builds.

For two handed builds, drop that gem and get the ~70% impale chance on the passive tree. Dread banner is another 20%. If you're champion, you get the last 10% from your ascendancy. Everyone else can get it from random jewel mods or weapons.

If you're forced to use this gem for whatever reason, you have to accept the fact that you're playing with a 5L

Or accept that impale support is better than the next best thing for your 6L? its not like its the only support out there.

Yeah I wouldn't call it a 5l to use impale support but I also get yamface's thinking that if the stat is available elsewhere you should be getting 100% impale from outside sources then running a different gem.

Its like running chance to bleed atm its fine if you need the bleed chance but its better to get that off gear and run a higher multiplier gem instead.

The usual arbitrary design: skip for simply superior options.

And yes its a dead gem mostly now.

it looks like it's not worth using the gem at the
moment but that might change soon or someone comes up with a different calculation.

if the gem would be mandatory for that skill it would be so blunt and simple ... and that was never the case with poe

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vio wrote:

it looks like it's not worth using the gem at the
moment but that might change soon or someone comes up with a different calculation.

if the gem would be mandatory for that skill it would be so blunt and simple ... and that was never the case with poe

Right, I understand that and all and why they're trying to scale back dmg on some support gems to create "build diversity" but when you nerf something into the ground to the point where it's barely usable is just going from one extreme end to the other.

I don't think it necessarily should be the best choice but all the other supports now should not overshadow it either, at least specifically in an impale build.

They know the numbers. They could tell you exactly how many players are using it. They don't need you to tell them that no one is using it.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

They know the numbers. They could tell you exactly how many players are using it. They don't need you to tell them that no one is using it.

I seriously doubt Chris or any of the dev team reads the forums, outside of the moderators...would be nice if they did and I'd post on Reddit instead with this subject but that would involve me needing to make an actual Reddit account...

Hoping Impale gets back a little bit of its teeth in a future patch/hotfix kind of like they did with Hypothermia/Reaper.