Is it true that mark on hit stuff uses mana now?

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Dontfear wrote:

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Terspet wrote:

lets assume for one second it will cost mana, that would mean on a group of 5 mobs a lvl 12 vulnerability cost 135 mana per attack (27mana per hit), if you use vuln you are most likely a melee wich avg (in my experience) atleast 3-4 atacks per sec.
thats 405-540 extra mana cost per second just vs a grp of 5

I think in this case not, because vul on hit is a curse that is not triggered, hence no mana cost. As far as I understand, the mana cost is only applied when it says "trigger x on hit" not "curse x on hit". But I may be completely wrong here.

Anyway, I think this shows that there are many changes that people will figure out on the fly during the first week in. Its really a bumper for theorycrafting.

soon we will see... but i think it cost mana

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TreeOfDead wrote:

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Dontfear wrote:

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Terspet wrote:

lets assume for one second it will cost mana, that would mean on a group of 5 mobs a lvl 12 vulnerability cost 135 mana per attack (27mana per hit), if you use vuln you are most likely a melee wich avg (in my experience) atleast 3-4 atacks per sec.
thats 405-540 extra mana cost per second just vs a grp of 5

I think in this case not, because vul on hit is a curse that is not triggered, hence no mana cost. As far as I understand, the mana cost is only applied when it says "trigger x on hit" not "curse x on hit". But I may be completely wrong here.

Anyway, I think this shows that there are many changes that people will figure out on the fly during the first week in. Its really a bumper for theorycrafting.

soon we will see... but i think it cost mana

If that is true, most of the curse on hit items will be completely useless, wont they?

I wouldn't be so worried.

It would appear that the change is more for Support gems that cause a trigger only.

For instance Mjolner doesn't cost extra mana according to the patch notes.

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Socketed Lightning Spells triggered by Mjölner now have a 0% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (they have no cost!).

That is not to say there will not be 'defects' and changes later.

Need to test using Poet's Pen. I could be wrong.

I've just checked the stuff a second time. Even for rings we got 2 different wordings:
"Curse Enemies with Vulnerability on Hit, with #% increased Effect" - should be safe
"Trigger Level # Poacher's Mark when you Hit a Rare or Unique Enemy" - should cause mana problems

/edit: If it works as I assume right now, hexes on rings are fine, but marks aren't, we are in a weird position here. My first call would be "GGG fix the mark on hit soon". but then I'm asking myself if there are any interactions that take adavantage out of this.

Huge if true

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Judaspriester wrote:

I've just checked the stuff a second time.

"Trigger Level # Poacher's Mark when you Hit a Rare or Unique Enemy" - should cause mana problems.

well if they didnt neuter my build hard enough before, they sure did now

if theyre going to fuck me like that they should at least take me out for a nice dinner first

GG peace out