hungry loop for AG...

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aggromagnet wrote:

You'd be much better off putting AG in a +minion lvls helm or something. I haven't looked at the build link, but I'd be willing to bet it suggests this as well. Levels are a really big deal for AG.

If you want to use a Hungry Loop, use it for the zombies. Or golem. Or skellies. Or anything other than AG.

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Orbaal wrote:

Nothing wrong with vaal skellies generally speaking.
Just keep in mind that you can spawn the melee general with his anger aura. If that happens, your zombies might very well deal more fire dmg than any other ele dmg and thus apply fire exposure via elemental army.

Another tiny details to think about is that if you are fighting a single boss w/o ads then there isnt enough space for all melee minions to get close enough and actually hit the guy and instead walk around aimlessly.

Thats 2 scenarios in which having vaal skellies plus zombies is less powerful, potentially even detrimental, for your overall dps output than simply not having either vaal skellies or zombies at all.


You´ll have to test it anyways, but I wouldnt be surprised if the overall performance with just one out of the two minion types was actually better.
If thats the case and you are going for Devouring Diadem over a real minion helmet with not just + minion gems but also rolled minion support gems, then your zombies might just die in sticky situations.
Even if the zombies arent sitting in the helmet, a minion life support gem rolled onto the helmet would provide global minion life and zombies arent that tanky if you dont heavily invest into them.

Personally I do prefer vaal skellies plus a from dust jewel allowing me to summon pretty much all skellies with just one click and have them block enemies if need be. Especially if Im reserving most of my mana I dont really like summoning mana intensive zombies at all - granted that this is a non-issue if you do run Devouring Diadem.
I do prefer a real minion helmet tho especially if Im running an expensive AG. Dead Zombies are inconvenient, a dead AG can hurt you wallet quite a bit.
And w/o Devouring Diadem summoning Zombies en masse goes from inconvenient to pain in the ass :D

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spaceace7373 wrote:

here's my build https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ultimate-raise-spectre-necromancer-build-guide

i currently have my AG set up in my gloves

i was thinking of moving AG into a hungry loop that i'm currently in the process of setting up

so, lvl-20 elemental army, lvl-3 empower, lvl-20 minion life, and something else i'm not sure of in the hungry loop with AG socketed.

first, what would be the better combo here? something like meat shield puts my AG close to me and not with the spectres which do the main damage.

second, i'm not asking for in-depth explanations, just basics for recommended combos and why.

i don't know much about gem combos and what works with certain gems to get the best outcome. but i want to run meat shield on my zombies so they, become my meat shield while not affecting my AG for personal survivability.