Reflected damage from "explode" effect can buypass "100% reflected damage reduction"
Hello. Just crafted new chest and got exact problem from the title.I have "12% chance explode" from Crusader and "100% reduced taken reflected physical damage" from Elder. Checked it on two lighthouse t16 maps with and without reflected physical damage. Without reflected damage everything is ok and I can finish map pretty easy.
Why do i think it is a bug? I can deal damage to the boss using all skills (including cyclone, blade flurry from general's cry and totems) and got nothing in response. But when i kill large amount of monsters i just die instantly. Reason why i suppose that it was reflected damage: killing normal (white) monsters close to each other deals small but equal amounts of damage to me. Exactly the same thing happens with blue and purple mobs. But portions of damage are much bigger. Last bumped on May 20, 2021, 2:44:26 AM
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You don't have "100% reduced taken reflected physical damage" with Ascendancy passive skill "Aspect of Carnage - 10% increased Damage taken"
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" I was talking about this body . Are you saying that "Aspect of Carngage" helps reflected physical damage buypass "100% reduced taken reflected damage"? Well... How does it even work this way? Let's say I must take 100 points of reflected damage. Aspect of Carnage increases it to 110 but after "100% reduced" it will be zero. Or aspect of carnage works after "100 reduced"? Ok. Still zero. Last edited by hefaid#3083 on May 19, 2021, 11:52:20 PM
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" Yes. x% increased and y% reduced stack additively. Your base modifier to reflected damage taken is 100% because anything is equal to 1 times itself - so you take all reflected damage. Then, introducing that chest, then Aspect of Carnage increased damage taken, turns that modifier like this: (100% - 100% + 10%) = 10% Meaning you take 10% of the damage that is calculated as reflected damage. Need game info? Check out the Wiki at: https://www.poewiki.net/ Contact support@grindinggear.com for account issues. Check out How to Report Bugs + Post Images at: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/18347 Last edited by adghar#1824 on May 19, 2021, 11:48:20 PM
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Ok, new shitty mechanic as i can say. Thank you for letting me know about that. So i just need 10% more reduced reflect?
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" Yes and no. Stacking another 10% reduced reflect damage taken will protect you in most cases... but there are other sources of "increased damage taken" that may bring you under 100% again. The most common of which will be Shock status effect and the Vulnerability curse. If you want to be able to run Reflect maps, I would highly recommend either getting to 140% reduced reflected damage taken, or getting VERY high up-time on Curse Immunity and Shock Immunity (such as getting a Chemist's Stibnite Flask of Grounding and a Chemist's Stibnite Flask of Warding). Need game info? Check out the Wiki at: https://www.poewiki.net/ Contact support@grindinggear.com for account issues. Check out How to Report Bugs + Post Images at: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/18347 Last edited by adghar#1824 on May 20, 2021, 12:25:37 AM
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Yup. Unless you are an Assassin, an Elementalist, a Slayer, or an Ascendant of those three - which states they cannot take reflected damage from crits, elemental damage and physical damage respectively (as opposed to "100% reduced reflected damage taken"), you have to be careful about anything that increase your damage taken as it will dampen your armour. In other words, the body armour alone does not make you immune to reflect.
You may want to put Soul of Yugul on if you just need to counter your Berserker's Rite of Ruin for the everyday gaming, but in extreme case, you will have to go with a Sybil (and de facto play with 1 less ring) Some things that make you take increased damage: > Shock and Shocked Ground > Sniper's Mark (all monsters that used to inflict Projectile Weakness now curse you with Sniper's Mak) > Vulnerability > Abyssus and Replica Abyssus > The Beast Fur Shawl > Rite of Ruin > Being Intimidated or Unnerved > Corruption of the Awakener during Sirus Fight (but unless you are Defiant your berserk should not care about reflected damage during THAT battle) Well, either that or equip that new staff that Atziri drops |
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