Leap Slam - How to handle Physical Reflect?

Hi,

I have a big problem with Physical Reflect Mobs. Yesterday I bought a Marohi Erqi and now I can play with Leap Slam as AoE and Single Target Attack, but the problem is that I One-Shot myself when I meet a Physical Reflect Mob.

I have 43% Damage Reduction without Endurance Charges and 73% with Endurance Charges and I also use a Granite Flask.

My Leap Slam Damage is at 6341.3 DPS without Auras and 8554.1 with Hatred. Leap Slam deals 3942-6143 Physical Damage.

I literally One-Shot myself If a Phys. Reflect Mob with other Mobs comes up. I did a Springs Map a few Minutes ago but had to leave the Map because there was a Phys. Reflect Mob with like 15-20 Mobs around him, so one Jump and dead. Even if the Mob is alone I Two-Shot myself.

My Gear


What can I do to handle the Phys. Reflect Damage?

How much life you have? Maybe you need more

Hrimsorrow Unique Gloves. They'll convert 25% of your physical damage to Cold, helping you lower what you're eating in a reflect.

Swap out Concentrated Effect for Added Fire Damage. If you have Lava Lash and the Templar Elemental Damage nodes, you'll come out with slightly less damage but around 1/3 to 1/2 of it will be fire. This will let you handle phys reflect a lot better while increasing your AOE because you're not using Conc.

Also, I'd honestly suggest turning that Marohi into a 5L and using that with leap slam so you get the added AOE. The affect doesn't apply unless you actually have it in the weapon.

You could also do with a ton more HP. From what I see on your gear, suing rough estimates, you can't possibly have over 3k HP. Fix that and you'll be fine.

I am at 2.5k HP and also tried the Kaom's Heart and 6L Marohi of a Friend. I was at 4.3k HP and 12k Leap Slam Damage and again the One-Shotting happend.

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I used Added Fire Damage before I switched to Conc. Effect but it was the same, the Physical Damage is just to high even if I use Added Fire Damage and of course I want to 5 or 6L my Marohi Erqi, but that is easier said than made. Already used 348 Fusings and best was 4L.

Well, the other option I see is sucking it up and not using Le Heup and Concentrated Effect. Those are really overboosting your damage.

Your windscream boots also really aren't helping your build since no HP + Low move speed + low armor overall. That and I don't see any curses, much less a second, that will actually necessitate those boots.

Your gloves are also pretty meh for defenses. Can easily pick up more life there. And again, I recommend Hrimsorrows to convert 25% of your final damage into Cold so you are less likely to kill yourself.

Your topaz ring is also meh. Really freaking nice resists, but you're sorely lacking HP right now.

So here's some items I recommend picking up to help out:

Kaom's Sign Coral Ring, preferably 2. These will always have 20-30 life on them and will give you 1 more endurance charge a piece, significantly cutting down reflect damage. The 2% life leech and 10-20 str on top is just gravy.

Hrimsorrow Goathide Gloves. They don't have much in the way of armor, but they do have cold res and will cut the reflect damage you eat by 25% because of the conversion. Again, the str on it is gravy.

Literally any rare leather belt with bonus life on it. The 10% increase from Meginord's is almost nothing compared to what a solid +50 HP will add. You'll also be able to get better resists off it, maybe roll WED too. You'll lose out on some physical damage that spirals out of control and pick up more HP + defenses in exchange.

For boots, Lioneye's paw, Sundance, and Wake of Destruction are all good replacements if you want unique items. I'd rather get boots with 20%+ Movement speed and a good chunk of life and resists, personally.


With that and swapping out Conc Effect for Added Fire, you should have about 1k less DPS with Hatred up while being much more survivable and not killing yourself on reflect mobs.

Well your physical damage is just simply too high to be blunt combined with the fact that the marohi has such high top end physical damage.

I play a leap slam (Largemidgets leap slam buff thief build, feel free to read up on that for any info) and I also had issues with physical reflect. The problem with your weapon is that it is very slow giving it a massive high end physical damage. Low hp + massive physical damage = disaster against melee reflect as you are seeing.

You'd be much better off in the long run swapping the marohi for a decent 2 hander. The marohi has low dps and as you've seen only hurts you against physical reflect due to it's massive damage.

I've got a 13k leap slam myself - and only 2500-4140 of that dps is physical. Get a new weapon for long term solution. Those gloves may work for short term. You'll prob need full endurance charges and a nice Granite flask with %armor on use to negate it at the moment.

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Brjann wrote:

I am at 2.5k HP and also tried the Kaom's Heart and 6L Marohi of a Friend. I was at 4.3k HP and 12k Leap Slam Damage and again the One-Shotting happend.

Need I say more?...

In your situation, a viable choice would be Vaal Pact. Look into it, it has some drawbacks, but it will make you able to Leap Slam into ANYTHING. And as long as you keep Slamming, you will be alive.

(note: don't take vaal pact then try to travel around with leap slam linked to a BM gem)

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VenatorPoE wrote:

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Brjann wrote:

I am at 2.5k HP and also tried the Kaom's Heart and 6L Marohi of a Friend. I was at 4.3k HP and 12k Leap Slam Damage and again the One-Shotting happend.

Need I say more?...

In your situation, a viable choice would be Vaal Pact. Look into it, it has some drawbacks, but it will make you able to Leap Slam into ANYTHING. And as long as you keep Slamming, you will be alive.

(note: don't take vaal pact then try to travel around with leap slam linked to a BM gem)

Vaal pact was something I was considering recently. I've run plenty of 'Cannot regenerate life or mana' maps and never have an issue so it could be a good move.

For this guy however it's definitely not a good move as his issue is killing himself it seems, although with that hp no doubt he'd struggle in high lvl content anyway on normal none reflect stuff.

He'll be leeching what about 12% of his physical damage as life? He'll be taking 20% of his physical per reflect on just a single mob so will still one shot himself.

Oh man, I just noticed he only uses Carnage Heart. Not even a Life Leech gem, NOT EVEN WARLORDS MARK.

Not much to say here anymore... Basically he needs to expand his knowledge of the game mechanics before trying to proceed further. We cannot just throw these random advices at him, because it obviously doesn't really make any sense to him, because his knowledge of the game mechanics is near non-existant.

I just use Carnage heart myself :P

But yeah at his gear levels thats a bit risky lol. Need more hp buffer for that to go well as well as maxed resistances and high chaos resistance.

So yeah he should be using the things you mentioned for sure...