GGG 2020 Financial statements have been released - 40% increase in sales!

Yada Yada Yada... People saying GGG will lose players cos of harvest nerfs again and impact revenue.

Ahhh.. no.

Sure, some sour grapes may leave out of spite but they are typically freeloaders anyway who don't pay much.

GGG will GAIN more players than those that leave... As has happened ever since 2013.

So if the sour grapes can leave and we get some awesome fresh meat, then it's ba win win for GGG and the community.

By the way, to the person that said POE playerbase is 100,000... Haha do you seriously think more people use steam than the standalone client? No way man... Numbers are much much larger.
Last edited by killingmasheen#3579 on Mar 22, 2021, 4:56:07 PM
I don't think there's any reason for doom and gloom at GGG right now. The aging engine is a ticking time bomb and two years from now Diablo IV is going to be a big problem but right now everything is fine for them.

I would be shocked if this year's revenue drops below 2019's. Wouldn't be shocked by a drop from 2020. People are spending so much more money on meaningless crap since COVID. It can't be sustainable (can it?)

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why anyone in their right mind would ever buy an NFT of anything...I think I'm too old to understand.
i, for my part, am glad they're doing fine.

hopes are up they got enough dough together to make 10c pay for poe2 until it's released.
age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
I think most people have no clue what Covid did to the various industries and economies. Hot industries....boats, RV's, bicycles, computers, computer games etc.

Let's get real here. With Covid and the new Witcher game flaming out it is a miracle that GGG's sales were only up 40%. Now this league helped out for sure...I dusted off my credit card and bought the remaining stash tabs I didn't have as a thank you for the new Atlas and Ritual League.

I want GGG to do well - that is good for them and it is good for us. (Harvest nerf aside which I am not thrilled about).
Last edited by MrWonderful99#4612 on Mar 22, 2021, 11:51:10 PM
Covid has been positive for certain industries. Gaming is a service, setting remote work for the devs is nothing, especially in a country like NZ, they don't face a civil war, famine, and they have decent infrastructures. You know that people work actually more at home, right? Companies that make video games saying that they have been negatively impacted by Covid are either malfunctionning at their core OR bsing.

I feel like 2020 was a great year for PoE and 3.13 worked amazingly well. The game works so fine that are impacting player experience to recoup on dev costs for next content patch.
Last edited by galuf#4435 on Mar 23, 2021, 12:16:53 AM
All game rise & fall. Some fall to obvivion, some manage to sustain.
There isn't a lot of competition in ARPGs for pass 3-4 years allow PoE is grow, but the next few years will have serious competitions.

PoE still can grow many more, but I do not think PoE will have massive grow,since poE is catered to hardcore dedicated single player ARPG gamers mainly.

If you are a hardcore arpg gamers, you probably give poE a fair shake.
People who tried PoE & do not like it, probably wouldn't be attracted to PoE2 since its more of an evolution of fetaure either people love or hate. People who enjoy PoE will be please for updated features & visuals for PoE2.

The single player focus probaly retrict the potinetial growth of PoE. Many gamers, & more so in Far East, people prefer to play games with social MP aspect.Its MEME but true, Itsmore fun with friends.


No matter, PoE has a dedecated hardcore fanbase & will do well for the forseeable future.
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MrWonderful99 wrote:
I think most people have no clue what Covid did to the various industries and economies. Hot industries....boats, RV's, bicycles, computers, computer games etc.

Let's get real here. With Covid and the new Witcher game flaming out it is a miracle that GGG's sales were only up 40%. Now this league helped out for sure...I dusted off my credit card and bought the remaining stash tabs I didn't have as a thank you for the new Atlas and Ritual League.

I want GGG to do well - that is good for them and it is good for us. (Harvest nerf aside which I am not thrilled about).


The gaming release dought of early 2021 does help PoE. For sure.
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DiabloImmoral wrote:
I don't think there's any reason for doom and gloom at GGG right now. The aging engine is a ticking time bomb and two years from now Diablo IV is going to be a big problem but right now everything is fine for them.

I would be shocked if this year's revenue drops below 2019's. Wouldn't be shocked by a drop from 2020. People are spending so much more money on meaningless crap since COVID. It can't be sustainable (can it?)

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why anyone in their right mind would ever buy an NFT of anything...I think I'm too old to understand.


So on the NFT front... ya, I agree. Why one earth would someone buy an NFT. Buying original artwork I get, because the artist put brush to canvas on THAT piece you bought. But an NFT? Frikking *shrug*.

However on the engine idea; I think you're wrong bud. Game engines evolve every year. If you understand at all how engines work, you don't NEED an engine built in 2021 to play a 2021 game. It's all about the plugins, the systems. All about the addons that work with the engine.

If you use say 100% delirious double beyond, that's not an example of a bad game engine. That's an example of bad game design, because NO ENGINGE can run that many calculations at once. There's not a single frikkin game on the market that can run all of that at once. It's not an engine problem, it's a 'why did we even design part of the game this way' problem.

According to GGG themselves, there's tens of thousands of calculations per second for any normal amount of play. Add in 100% del / double beyond and it's pretty easy to put together why the game suddenly chugs.
I can see much White Knights in this topic, tell me
how much they earn to defend GGG ?
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Aim_Deep wrote:
But Harvest numbers aint in man.... If I had a dollar for every time GGG was dying I'd be rich as Chris.


If I had a dollar for every time [put any company here] was dying I'd be rich

this sentence is present in every game forum, chill.

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