A tale and opinions of „the feared“ invitation
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(First thread ever in the forums and maybe the last. In addition: my english isnt that good. Some small spoilers ahead if you dont know the game well enough)
How it all started: I came to Wraeclast in the age of 24 or 25. I cant remember. I am 30 years old now and I can tell you I had a blast in this hellish hole. I started as on the beach, over and over again and didnt know what to come. After some help of other exiles I was able to survive everything what had stand in my way. Even Izaro, the keeper of the labyrinth and Atziri, the Queen of the Vaal. I ascended. I found an atlas later. It dragged me in. After some time I met a strange red clothed Lady…her name is Zana. She asked for my help. She is defintily a companion. After weeks in this strange realms I came across tough enemies. They all had a fragment of a some kind of key…Zana told me that this 4 fragments can open the realm to an unknown beeing. The Shaper…that was the first time I was really nervous… The Shaper…he is Zana´s father! I thought I have been through everything in Wraeclast. And I was right but what hides in this map device…my adventure has only started… What have I done so far: So yeah exiles some of you can remember Ascension, the old masters, Atlas of Worlds. Some of you even older content and some even the start of Poe. I don want to waste your time longer and want to point out why I am even consider to open a thread. My account is at least 8000 hours heavy, has some lvl 100 chars, 9x 40/40 Challenge Totems and a pretty big amount of money in it. And I think I will not finish the 10th totem… I decided to start a Slayer with heavy strike and a tidebreaker, overleech and vaal pact. So my worm flask was my bestfriend. Lucky enough I made a beautiful 28% quality, max flat damage double corrupt tidebreaker with onslaught and inspiration (unfortunately since I use brutality and resolute technique the inspiration support didnt helped but reduced mana cost). I have all important awakening gems (melee phys, brutality, multistrike). In my offhand was another tidebreaker with ancestral call and melee splash. So I was able to pretty smoothly map and switch instantly to one target dmg weapon if needed. In addition to that I met one Aul and he dropped the amulet with pride reserves no mana. So my build is around 100 ex heavy. I was able to defeat all endgame bosses deathless. Even the maven but with Awakening level 0. I also managed to finish the condition challenge. So here am I. With 37 challenges completed. Whats missing? Endgame Grinds, 1250 mapbosses with the maven and allocating passives points in the atlas. The breachlords invitation and the maven herself was already difficult enough. Keep in mind I am a striker. I have to attack close range while standing. Here we are: the feared invitation. The feared invitation: If someone here dont know what do you have to do: to play „the feared“ invitation, by far the hardest boss challenge avaiable, you have to kill while the maven is in 1) the shaper 2) the elder 3) uber atziri 4) breachlord chayula and last but no least 5) cortex bosses. So lets think about the amount of currency you spent here. At the actual price we speak about all together 4,5 – 5 ex for one try. You cant farm nothing of these things, especially the cortex fight. You need to play map after map hoping to drop shaper and elder guardian maps, cortex map drop and chayula breaches or you „just“ buy them all. Of course you can use the atlas passive points for extra drop chances. I found 1 cortex map in 8 weeks…just as a fact. In my opinion uber atziri and the shaper are the most dangerous encounters with the maven influence. So now you have to fight all 5 bosses in one single encounter. At least 2 of them at the same time. All bosses down, all watchstones out, white invitation in, lets go! Easy!...6 portals later chayula has full life and atziri lost 25% of her hp…what? Ok another try… All bosses down, all watchstones out, white invitation in, lets go…6 portals later cortex boss has full life and atzri lost 30% of her hp. What? Ok 9 ex gone…another try…. About 20 ex later I still dont know what happens when one boss is down. I search for help. Videos, forums, whatever…play range here, play range there, 40 m dps as a solution, and so on. Some „nice“ tips like „dont die“ „your build is bad“ and so on. My thoughts and questions about the feared invitation: Whats a challenge? Everybody has a different opinion about that. Every single bossfight is a challenge. Every single boss fight with the maven is a greater challenge. You can learn the mechanics, dodging, overcome, great! Try to imagine: Since I am a striker, a pretty good one, I jump to atziri, hit here maybe 2 or 3 times and I need to dodge her flameblast, chayula is spinning, dodging again, atziri uses big storm calls, dodging, need to kill a worm from my flask because I need to recover life, maven copies chayula, copy chayula spins, atzriri throws spears over and over again, another worm gone, and so and so on till I die and 6 portals are gone. Ive done sirus awakening level 9 deathless, uber elder deathless, I am lvl 97 without any big problems, so I know the mechanics of all endgame bosses and I can kill them with a strike gem. cool! How do I feel with this encounter? Like a child who should shut up and dad is like „buy him a new toy so he is calm and busy“. This „design“ is pretty poor. Throw a bunch of hardest bosses together, make them lvl 83 and let the maven play with you as well. And hey let it cost 5 ex. I tried it several times and with my best friend together. Each of us attacking a single boss, both of us the same boss, both alone…no chance. The solution can be mirror worth gear (never had such gear) or another build which is ranged so you can attack and dodge at the same time. Both solution were never needed to beat a challenge in poe except for trying and learning the mechanics. I am really really worried about this design decision as I am about the last maven phase with 100% reduced life recovery beams and the memory game. A side fact here: if she is doing the memory game I need to type in the chat window numbers, press enter when she is done and watch the numbers and walk the areas like that. I am so bad in these things. In my opinion GGG passed the border with 3.13: the difficult lvl overcomes now the fun of the game. The crashes till week 3 or 4, the graphic bugs, the instances gone, there are still bugs with shaper and sirus fight… to be honest I not hyped for poe 2 anymore. No matter what the future of poe is or if I continue playing in the future. For ritual I am done. The way that GGG with Path of Exile takes since the last leagues isnt a good one for me at least. The new content ismaking the game sick. Open a map,do a breach, a blight, an abyss, dont forget the master, make the boss with maven, go to hideout, oh I forgot alva´s temple is ready and the crawler is full as well, and so on. Its way to much and there is so much to come. Dont know, maybe I am getting old…I know thats all optional but Ist just feels bad. I want to thank GGG for this nice years so far and maybe some of you exiles where I had nice rotations or trades or smalltalks ingame. I had so much fun and some challenges in Poe made it easier to beat other games. If you read till here I am already thankful. I am so curious about you guys and girls: what a build you play? Did you managed to finish the feared invitation? And what do you think about this encounter and the future of poe? Last bumped on Mar 9, 2021, 11:58:36 AM
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You know I really could make fun of you I legit could but that's no fun but if you think it takes 1 mirror worth of gear to do this fight that's a learn two play issue.
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Rohs an kyn Sahl djahs afah Mah morn narr |
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" well another lazy answer. to bad. why dont you just answer my questions? if you want to tell me how bad I am then just dont reply. Last edited by Bärenpower#3205 on Mar 6, 2021, 8:41:28 AM
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" That´s a personal opinion. In my eyes PoE is freakishly easy compared to other games I played. Just one reference: A 5-man group in TERA back when Manaya´s Core was a difficult instance, long before the introduction of the worm. We trained around 2 weeks before we downed her the first time. First evening, 6 hours of training: we got her from 100 to 94%. So yeah, PoE is very easy compared to that. One miss-step, one misscommunication and one bad call and it´s a whipe for the whole group. Allright, now that we got this out of the way, let´s focus on the topic at hand. " I am playing right now one of the most tanky builds in the game, put around 400Ex into my char and therefore also managed to reach around 40 Million DPS. I do the Feared Invitation on Awakener 8 and Yellow, being very careful with the mods though when rolling it. And I can partly agree: It is a freakin clutter-party. Basically, every single boss does exactly the same they do when they are solo, but being together in that arena means you need to be able to watch all of them alone which is borderline impossible. I think the fight would be helped quite a lot if they just take out cortex-boss. You still have Elder and Shaper, + Chayula, + Atziri. It´s still hard enough, but now it gets WAY easier to enter it, and easier to fight. Of course, not as profitable so there´s that. But that would be in my eyes a fair way to balance the costs + lower the difficulty slightly to make it more appealing. Edit: I am also playing Melee Strike Character. Last edited by Vennto#1610 on Mar 6, 2021, 8:43:56 AM
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wow 400 ex is crazy for me. i got around 120 ex after 7 weeks. would love to see a video how you do it. I havnt block or dodge chance. I just have overleech and phys reductions. ofc some endurance charges but thats it. I just cant hit by any spell or attacks because it deals a ton of dmg. no problem with one boss but with 2 or me...like you said nearly impossible. and thats just the dodge thing. I need to attack as well
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Carrion golem necro aura stacker = "The Feared" easy-peasy
Just use anti-refelct pantheon for Atziri ( Soul of Yugul ) Last edited by Elua#0230 on Mar 6, 2021, 9:19:31 AM
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" Honestly I haven´t been playing for the last 2 weeks I think and I have another 250ex sitting in my stash and nothing to do with that. So that´s definately one point that makes the invitation for me easier. Second thing, even though I am melee I play a poison build, means I attack for a short duration and then I can run away while the damage keeps ticking. Then I am max Block and max spell dodge, + leech + tons of different other layers of defenses. So that helps too. To sum that up: The question that we should ask is if you would demand that the feared invitation should be doable by every single character. There are builds that can do it way cheaper - typical Miners that oneshot the bosses clear it so fast that they basically skip the mechanics, other builds can do that as well and they don´t even have to be ranged. Some 2-Hand Ignite Discharger can do it even with tons of regen. Thats why I said in the first place I am only agreeing with you halfway - maybe your build isnt simply suited for it. I myself can´t complain about delve being unbalanced because I can´t get deeper... PoE is in general pretty complex and to assume just because you put 120ex in one char and he should be able to do really EVERYTHING is something I would be very careful about. Last edited by Vennto#1610 on Mar 6, 2021, 9:20:28 AM
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thank you vennto for the answer. you made a freaking amount of ex that i would never reach. for me 120 ex is very much. that amulet i received from aul is very expenisve as well, at least for me and my friends.
dont you think its bad design, when I am able to defeat every boss alone but dont able to defeat them at the same time? its like you are punished for the build you play. the main defense source while Im mapping is stun. you can totally forget that in this endgame fights. youre right with my build isnt suited for that. If I dont leech I am not stun and bleed immune. So I cant dodge for a long time, I need to attack @Elua I thought about making a different character for this encounter like the build you mentioned but for me its just make no sense. Like I said I can do everything with that char, except the feared. Its just feels bad to create something else just for this encounter Last edited by Bärenpower#3205 on Mar 6, 2021, 10:04:03 AM
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Totally agree that Cortex needs to leave the band. He is single reason for bumping up the cost and risks of running the invitation.
I don't know exactly how your build is in numbers, but theoretically 120 ex should be enough to do a lot of things, unless you wasted it on HH. 40 million DPS strike build should be enough to stun bosses with the first hit (or ruthless blow, eventually), and then another three seconds to finish off. A strike build is leading the way currently with 2 billion DPS: https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?sort=dps |
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I cant call you numbers. I never put the effort on it to make my build into pob fork. I just thought I want to play slayer, want to try heavy strike and using tidebreaker. so I started the build and improved it bit by bit. I uses as a belt ryslathas coil.
but where is the challenge then? for me it isnt a solution to just say play a 2 billion dps build. that just feels totally wrong. you can outsmart every bossfight in this game if you are good enough but the feared depends only on your gear. I know this isnt dark souls but the amount of skill and gear you need to win that fight is just out of balance |
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