3.13 Inquisitor Rework or "Look how they massacred my boy"

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raics wrote:

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sidtherat wrote:

and then.. attack 4 times in place to get INSANE caster damage. ive already checked, getting 4 cyclone procs takes less than a second. this node is hot garabge, it does not promote 'battlemage', it promotes doing stupid things for even more stupid damage increase.

Honestly, none if it really surprised me, by this time I'm pretty sure they wouldn't know battlemage gameplay if it entered the office on a red carpet followed by a pro wrestling announcer and gave them its business card.

I'm pretty sure at least half of all "battlemage gameplay" we'll see next league is going to amount to "I equipped Wrath and changed nothing else about my caster build"

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

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raics wrote:

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sidtherat wrote:

and then.. attack 4 times in place to get INSANE caster damage. ive already checked, getting 4 cyclone procs takes less than a second. this node is hot garabge, it does not promote 'battlemage', it promotes doing stupid things for even more stupid damage increase.

Honestly, none if it really surprised me, by this time I'm pretty sure they wouldn't know battlemage gameplay if it entered the office on a red carpet followed by a pro wrestling announcer and gave them its business card.

I'm pretty sure at least half of all "battlemage gameplay" we'll see next league is going to amount to "I equipped Wrath and changed nothing else about my caster build"

What exactly do you mean regarding wrath and battlemage? I don't see the great synergy there. Battlemage adds your mainhands weapon damage to your spelldamage, i am pretty sure this doesn't consider flat damage added from other sources

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Baharoth15 wrote:

What exactly do you mean regarding wrath and battlemage? I don't see the great synergy there. Battlemage adds your mainhands weapon damage to your spelldamage, i am pretty sure this doesn't consider flat damage added from other sources

Ah, I had assumed it meant the damage you would do with a main-hand default attack, which would include things like the flat lightning of Wrath. Hopefully someone will annoy the devs on Reddit until they clarify this point.

Yeah that Battlemage line is the most vague they have been in a while.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

Ah, I had assumed it meant the damage you would do with a main-hand default attack, which would include things like the flat lightning of Wrath. Hopefully someone will annoy the devs on Reddit until they clarify this point.

Yeah, I'd assume it works like spellslinger or rallying cry, you get only a percentage of what it says on the weapon.

I'm glad you put that edit at the front of your post. I agree with one of the other posters that, as someone who likes trying new things, I see a world of fun things to play around with from the changes.

At the end of the day you latch on to one specific thing at your own peril in PoE - whether that be a skill gem, an ascendancy, a unique item, whatever. Sorry for your loss, but adapt or die exile. Don't weep for what is no more, but enjoy how long you got to spend with it.

I would assume Battlemage tries to introduce a new flavour class, which works with two main skills.

One as an attack and the other skill as a spell.

If that is the case i think spell dmg stacking, using a beefy 2H with lots of phys damage + Crowns of Eyes would allows for a hybrid play style.

In case you like cold bases skills, and depending if the spells support or are situational to your attack i could think of:


Ice Crash + any cold bases totems.
Ice Crash + Vortex
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Any ice/fire/lightning/chaos based melee attack + ice/fire/lightning/chaos spell which both do decent damage relatively to each other and could either be used situational or as a means of support damage (totems).

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gandhar0 wrote:

In case you like cold bases skills, and depending if the spells support or are situational to your attack i could think of:


Ice Crash + any cold bases totems.
Ice Crash + Vortex
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Any ice/fire/lightning/chaos based melee attack + ice/fire/lightning/chaos spell which both do decent damage relatively to each other and could either be used situational or as a means of support damage (totems).

Would be nice, but they murdered most of those attack + spell totem setups when they introduced melee totems, there was a point to playing them once. Might be wrong here, but I don't think there's a hybrid setup that outdoes a straight melee setup with ancestral warchief on the side, you also get free utility with melee totems being faster to place and more durable.

This was pretty the main reason I wasn't happy with melee totems. Well, also them being a bandaid for 'but, but area denial! a melee can't stand there and hit the boss' - 'tut-tut, no complaining exile, that's why we gave you these nice totems, they can play melee instead of you'.

So what non-instant, non-cooldown spell has super fast cast time so I can spam it 3 times to get 30% more attack damage?

Flame Dash (.7)
any Curse (.5) - maybe the useless curse cast speed nodes have a value after all?
brand (.75)
frost bomb/wave of conviction (.5)
winter orb (if applicable)
..ancestral totem (?)

these are unbuffed values. most likely you cast at least one or two of these before dps window so it is literally free damage